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May 09, 2003

things that rock

First, Neil T. and Michael Fagan rock. They pointed me to several really good blog search tools. So far, BlogDigger seems to work the best for me but I haven't given enough time to rssSearch and Feedster to make a fair comparison.

Thanks to improved blog searching, I found lots of cool moz-relates info that I'd been missing with just Google, Daypop and a few big blogrolls. Below are a few pointers to some of the (I think) recent stuff that I'd missed:

Joe's additions to userContent.css which kicks serious ass. Maybe we should just ship that thing in Mozilla Firebird commented out and let people uncomment to enable some good ad-blocking. (Amusingly, and on an ad-related note, this guy reckons that Mozilla Firebird will have to start charging money or putting up ads like Opera.)

I'm not sure when this showed up but for anyone wanting to convert a Mozilla SeaMonkey extension into a Mozilla Firebird extension, this Transition from a Mozilla Package to a Firebird Extension doc at the mozdevxfly project should be a big help.

Henrik Gemal is using a nice little "off-site link" indicator icon with links over at his weblog. I really do like that and as soon as I have time I think I'll add something like that to this blog.

Mozilla Bonobo with screenshots sounds very cool (thanks to blizzard for the initial pointer.)

These bookmarklets for playing with images are pretty cool. Not sure why you'd want to drag an image around but it certainly works. The album bookmarklet seems like it could really be useful though.

Myk and Brian published Remote Application Development with Mozilla, Part 2 a few days ago and I forgot to blog about it. Remote XUL apps are definitely keeping me excited about Mozilla.

Code for enabling rich text editing for MT in Mozilla missed my radar as well. Maybe mywonderful hosts can add this to their MT installation.

Ken, over at Ken & Sarah: Our Story was looking for one of these custom keyword docs (mine, Blogzilla's, mozillanews' and Grayrest's) and maybe you were too.

Another improvement for the plug-in experience can be found at the team murder site.

And apparently someone's reading my blog :-)

update - more things that rock:

This bookmarklet.

Ben's here!.

and Glazman takes Festa down a notch.

Posted by asa at May 9, 2003 02:46 PM
Comments

I liked Blogdigger as well. Adding the search URL for "mozilla" as an RSS feed in my aggregator (Feedreader) worked perfectly:

http://www.blogdigger.com/rss.jsp?queryString=mozilla&sortby=date&days=2

-shoOz-

Posted by: shooz on May 9, 2003 02:58 PM

As to a business plan that includes revenue:

"Here is the core argument: There are a thousand Open Source projects that get started out of need or fun, are maintained for awhile for fame, then get abandoned because there is no reason to go on. Eventually, the programmers come to understand that "users" are people who yell at you to fix stuff. So Open Source is inherently flawed. It only works because otherwise unknown programmers can get 15 minutes of fame using the Internet as low-barrier entry into introducing their skill to the world...But in time, most Open Source projects grind to a halt. The ones that survive are projects like Linux and Apache that have substantial involvement by PAID engineers. One could argue, in fact, that the idea of Open Source software being created by volunteers is a misnomer. Even Linus Torvalds is paid by Transmeta to be the God of Linux." Robert X. Cringely, PBS http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030424.html

If any project is to survive, a business plan that includes sufficient revenue to keep the project going must be included. Where and how that revenue gets there is open for discussion; nonetheless, revenue must be found.

Regards,

Dan

Posted by: ThisGuy on May 9, 2003 03:48 PM

That userContent has been floating around MozillaZine for months. I've been ad-free since last year using my variations.

Posted by: alanjstr on May 9, 2003 06:42 PM

Dan, the linux kernel doesn't come with a built-in ad banner. Vendors of open source-based products like Red Hat, IBM or others may attach business models to open source technologies which generate revenue but the open source technologies themselves don't require built-in revenue generators like does the commercial Opera product.

You said "their business model will require the transfer of money from you to them at some point". I assumed "their" was referring to the Phoenix/Firebird/Mozilla development team and "you" was referring to the Phoenix/Firebird/Mozilla users. If that's the case then your assertion is wrong. The mozilla.org-released binaries will never be directly attached to a revenue stream - any more than the linux kernel is.

Mozilla technologies are just that, technologies. If you want or expect advertising in mozilla-distributed binaries you're going to be let down. For that, you can seek out commercial distributions of Mozilla-based products. To suggest that the mozilla.org-distributed binaries will at some point require users to pay is simply wrong. We make these binaries available, free of charge, free of advertising and free of any commercial encumberences in exchange for the extremely valuable testing and bug reporting that we get. That's their value to us and that's unlikely to change.

--Asa

Posted by: Asa on May 9, 2003 07:24 PM

Just a quick comment before I go to my graduate school class.

I agree that you probably won't see banner ads in the kernel anytime soon. But then, neither do you see any in Windows. The point I was trying to make, albeit perhaps not very well, is that there shall be a revenue stream somewhere. If not, this project, like the others before it, will end.

And as I've said before, I don't want that. Having choice is a Good Thing. But if the money doesn't come from somewhere, well, Firebird will simply crash and burn. IMHO. YMMV.

Regards,

Dan

Posted by: Dan on May 10, 2003 11:11 AM

Thanks for the positive feedback about BlogDigger. I am glad you like it. Let me know if you have any ideas!

Thanks!

Posted by: Greg on May 10, 2003 07:19 PM

Asa, you, too, are a beautiful, beautiful human being. :) Thanks for the tips. Having keywords for bookmarks is one of the many reasons why Mozilla is so incredibly cool. :)

Posted by: Ken Walker on May 10, 2003 09:39 PM

Greg, one change that would make me very happy isn't so much a feature (so far I'm pleased as punch with the search results themselves and I've been using it *a lot*) as it is a usability adjustment.

Right now the site is hardcoded at 800px width. This may be fine for the 40-50% of web surfers running at that resolution (actually, I think a lot of them will get a horizontal scrollbar) but for the growing number of people using higher resolution displays (like me,) it makes the page much harder to use.

Here's why. I have 1600px of horizontal real estate in my maximized browser window. I zoom my fonts up about 300% so I can sit back a couple of feet from the hi-res and bright LCD screen and still be able to read. What I end up with is bigger text but not a wider column so the short descriptions take up three and four lines rather than one or two which severely limits the number of results I can see in one screen. If you could change that table from 800px to some reasonable % value or change it to some em value (so it scaled with font size) then everyone on higher and lower than 800x600 screens would have a more pleasant experience.

I see from your dev blog that it was only about 10 days ago that you all redesigned so if you're busy with other more pressing work I completely understand. I have a great little bookmarlet that Jesse http://squarefree.com/ cooked up for resizing those hardcoded values to better fit my large screen and that should tide me over for a while :)

It's a great tool and I'm very happy to have found it. Keep up the good work. Oh, and one more thing, a Mozilla/Firebird search plugin would be awesome. It's a pretty simple process to make one http://mycroft.mozdev.org/deepdocs.html and there are millions of users out there with mozilla-based browsers that can easily install the plugin.

--Asa

Posted by: Asa on May 11, 2003 12:35 AM

Ken, thanks :D

Posted by: Asa on May 11, 2003 01:29 AM

Hey - I thought blogs were for reading!
:-)

Posted by: Andy on May 11, 2003 06:24 AM

Asa, blog searching is coming via Google:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30621.html

Keep up the great work on Moz Firebird!

Marc

Posted by: Marc Randolph on May 12, 2003 06:55 AM

Hey, thanks for the mention, even if it is linkless :-)

Incidentally, I found this post by vanity searching on BlogDigger.

Posted by: Michael Fagan on May 20, 2003 08:35 PM

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