Eric Raymond on Mozilla

Monday November 29th, 1999

Brian King writes:

"Just want to let you know that I was at a talk last night in Trinity College, Dublin with Eric Raymond, whom we know and love as a champion of open source.

It was billed as: 'Freedom, Power and Software: What the Internet teaches us about ethics and politics'

Anyway, at one point someone from the audience brought up Mozilla and its 'failure' to try to disprove one of his points. But Eric was having none if it, proclaiming Mozilla to be 'a success', despite the delays. I won't say anymore in case I misquote him! But that was the bottom line.

It was a great talk; certainly gets you thinking."

#9 alpha

by FrodoB

Thursday December 2nd, 1999 2:48 PM

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>Meanwhile, we await the 100% standards complient IE6..

I hope that's a joke, or you're gonna be waiting a LONG time.

For two reasons: Reason 1 is that MS has given us no reason (other than press releases, which are notoriously inaccurate at MS) to believe that they would support standards 100%. Reason 2 is that the Platform Preview (roughly equivalent to one step in front of beta in MS-speak) for IE 5.5 was just released on the Microsoft Developer Network yesterday, indicating that there's no IE 6.0 in the near future.

As for the layout performance, it dwarfs IE 5.01's. It just doesn't look that way because of the untuned incremental reflow code. Vidur and Nisheeth are working on fixes which Nisheeth is confident will totally alleviate the reflow issue. The rest of the issues are being dealt with in like fashion. Trees particularly are being beaten, bloodied, and beaten again by Hyatt, which in turn improves mail/news performance. Ender (the Composer and form widget backend) is getting similar performance overhauls. The speed-up will be dramatic once the engineers can focus solely on speed and bug-fixing rather than feature implementation.