Eric Raymond on Mozilla

Monday November 29th, 1999

Brian King writes:

"Just want to let you know that I was at a talk last night in Trinity College, Dublin with Eric Raymond, whom we know and love as a champion of open source.

It was billed as: 'Freedom, Power and Software: What the Internet teaches us about ethics and politics'

Anyway, at one point someone from the audience brought up Mozilla and its 'failure' to try to disprove one of his points. But Eric was having none if it, proclaiming Mozilla to be 'a success', despite the delays. I won't say anymore in case I misquote him! But that was the bottom line.

It was a great talk; certainly gets you thinking."

#6 Openness == Forgiveness

by james_keller <>

Tuesday November 30th, 1999 1:52 PM

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I would I don't think outsider views have much to do with intentions. Although MS marketing is probably in there to make sure the correct things are not supported - I really doubt that any MS developers purposely write bad code. Of course they are subject to the same types of delays as any other projects.

The real key is the openness. If Mozilla had never happened and this was all a closed-netscape endevour we'd be bitching more about Netscape's delays than Win2000. The differences is that because Mozilla is so public, people can understand what's happened, and in turn forgive. We can see that happening in the media even: All the bad press mozilla's been getting lately are invariably from people who haven't checked anything out at all - they don't know much about it so they go "hey, it's late. it must be a failure" While all the good press tends to be from those who have actually investigated.

And with such open development, a software's promised features become a bit more than vapour ware - people can actually look and find out the state of a particular vapour and get an idea for themselves when exactly it'll solidify.