M11 is out!

Tuesday November 16th, 1999

M11 binaries are now available on the ftp server in Win32, Linux, and Mac flavors, with more to come.

Things new in this release:

  • New name (mozilla, not apprunner)
  • The new chrome
  • rginda's Chatzilla IRC client enabled (see the Chatzilla page for info on how to test it out)
  • Incremental reflow - still a work in progress, but pages now display as the content comes in and no longer wait for closing tags
Check out the release notes for more.

#32 Impressions...

by Anon

Wednesday November 17th, 1999 12:32 PM

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I've just tried out M11. I hope Mozilla works out, but agh! the frustration of using this for the first time.

a) Is there a way to get rid of the bar on the left? I close "My Panel" but there is still a semi-thin bar there.

b) Slow, slow, slow interface (like above posts). Even going through all the preference windows (Edit->Preferences) is slow. Very similar to the slow speed when using Java.

The text disappears too (goes invisible) for some reason, while clicking around on the Category menu).

c) Slow rendering? Someone mentioned it was "lightning fast" up above. Well, I beg to differ. I put up some sample daily TV listings tables at


which are similar to the ones I view each day.

If you click a time to view, I found that IE5 loads and completely displays each page/table in _less than a second_, Netscape 4.7 in approx 2 seconds, and Mozilla M11 in 7 to 8 seconds. Mozilla M11 also peaks the CPU at 100% during these 8 seconds. Argh. That just isn't fun at all.

Obviously this will differ based on inet connection/cpu speed, but that is how it works out here.

(mind you IE5 doesn't display the lines in the table properly after the first two vertical bars.. odd)

d) The File/Edit menubar is white. I hope someone changes that. It blends in with white pages too easily (especially in javascript popups -- click any TV program on that tv listing page)

Well, I've only had 1 crash so far (while moving the scrollbar during the loading of <>) so I guess that is kind of good?

The UI stuff I'm sure is easy to change, but I doubt the world will tolerate the lack of speed of the current product.

Just my 2 cents.