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Jesse Berst Says that Communicator Won't Support XML!!!

Wednesday November 10th, 1999

Joel Caris writes in with the latest Berst burst of wisdom. Jesse Berst's new article at ZDNet's AnchorDesk is filled with such pearls as, "It now expects to ship beta of the 5.0 version of its browser suite next month... [a]nd without support for key Web technologies such as XML that IT managers and Web developers can get from IE."

Damn. And I was under the impression that the entire Mozilla application required XML to power its user-interface, and that it's XML support throughout the application was unparalleled. Silly me.

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#39 things that make you go "hmmm"

by Waldo

Wednesday November 10th, 1999 3:06 PM

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OH MY GOD! He *CHANGED* the article's incorrect assertion that mozilla doesn't support XML on the sly without ANY KIND OF ACKNOWLEGEMENT! A real journalist would have acknowleged and apologized for the oversight. Jesus...

THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING. One merely has to look at his sources and how he spins them.

Take this statement:

--------- "Now it appears Netscape's browser won't survive. Zona Research is the latest to declare IE victor with survey results showing 64% of corporations picked IE over Navigator." ----------

Let's pick out the lunacy of this:

1. When Netscape controlled 75% of the browser in '96, did Microsoft say the browser war was "over"? I don't think so. But apparently, to Berst, a 64% lead means "victory" now.

2. But it *DOESN'T* to Zona research. The study cited did claim it was the "end of an era" but not the era Berst is hoping for! Zona didn't say anything about the war ending between Netscape and IE. In fact, its saying that the war has NARROWED into a two-browser competition (they make an analogy to the cola wars which are an ongoing two-brand competition). (See <http://www.zonaresearch.c…m/info/press/99-nov08.htm> for Zona's ACTUAL conclusions about the browser war.)

3. The study interviewed a grand total of 236 *CORPORATE* respondants, according to the press release at <http://www.zonaresearch.c…tudy/1999/nov99/index.htm>. They were asked about the browser they used "at work" (see <http://www.zonaresearch.c…/1999/nov99/chart1_sm.gif> ) Note that this study tells us _nothing_ about non-corporate or individual usage.

4. To give you an idea of how this survey was conducted, "approximately 300 corporate IT professionals" (if 236 is approximately 300) from "a variety of market segments" were asked if they used a browser, and if so, what they'd downloaded lately. (See <http://www.zonaresearch.c…tudy/1999/nov99/index.htm> ) Looking at the bottom of the graph at <http://www.zonaresearch.c…tudy/1999/nov99/index.htm> , unless I'm interpreting it incorrectly, the browser questions had N=172 -- only 172 respondants to this question? So the 64% victory comes from the PRACTICES (not necessarily PREFERENCES) of 172 corporate user's AT WORK. Great.

5. Of those surveyed in Oct 1999, *NINE* said they were still using IE 3.x. Compare with *FOURTEEN* claimed to be using Netscape Navigator 5.x!! (See <http://www.zonaresearch.c…/1999/nov99/chart2_sm.gif>). Fourteen people (6% of N=232)using a PRE-ALPHA product of Mozilla at work? That's weird.

5. The people interviewed "are selected from the IntelliQuest Technology Panel." (See <http://www.zonaresearch.c…ucts/products.htm#reports>) which are 32,000 people on some list I guess. Who are these people? I'm not in any way a survey expert but don't usually they say these people are phoned at random and there's such-and-such a margin of error..? Maybe someone out there knows (?)

5. According to the survey, 69% of users are REQUIRED or ENCOURAGED to use IE by their jobs (<http://www.zonaresearch.c…/1999/nov99/chart4_sm.gif>). But only 64% do, suggesting that 5% are intentionally violating their work's mandate to use IE! And indeed, 31% of companies say to employees "use Netscape" but 5% more (36%) do! (See chart at <http://www.zonaresearch.c…m/info/press/99-nov08.htm>) - Looks like Microsoft's well known practices are squeezing corporations to use IE, the users know better :)

5. Zona's list of "key clients" includes... suprise suprise... MICROSOFT (See <http://www.zonaresearch.com/info/clients.htm>)

Hmmmmmm......someone leave the spin cycle on for too long?

W