New Skin and Another Big Change!

Tuesday October 26th, 1999

The new skin is in the 10-26 builds. Visit our builds page to get the latest. I find myself not minding the whitespace around the sidebar's border as much as I expected I would. However, there is one issue that troubles me. When you move the sidebar's "splitter", instead of moving a "ghost" of the splitter, you move the splitter itself. the problem is that if you're expanding the sidebar, the splitter disengages from the top and bottom border of the sidebar, leaving a white gap. If you shrink the width of the sidebar, the splitter moves past the right edge of the top and bottom borders of the sidebar, and the effect is just as bad. The answer would be to either 1) expand and contract the sidebar in realtime as the splitter is moved (probably slow), or 2) manipulate a "ghost" of the splitter during resize, and when the mouse button is released, move the actual splitter and resize the sidebar.

The second bit of news is that they've made more changes to the "incremental reflow" of the rendering engine. Now, the page will start rendering content even before reaching closing tags. This means a dramatic decrease in the time taken to get content displayed, and it's a great benefit when loading pages with long lists of data. But I find the content shifting disconcerting (check out, and for examples if you have a 56k connection or slower), and the decrease in scrollbar responsiveness is vexing. Hopefully that will be working on these issues in the coming weeks leading up to the beta.

#36 Skin transparency? + responsiveness

by Anon

Wednesday October 27th, 1999 5:42 PM

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First, I hope mozilla just figures out how to incrementally render like IE5 (it is incrementally rendering, right?). It seems fast and very viewable. ie: <> (does mozilla work on this site yet with all its javascript things?) Mozilla also refreshes too much (the last build that I tried).

Secondly, I know skins now use XUL/XML?, but does that allow for transparency at all? Can you make a BeOS type titlebar with it (only the part of the titlebar with text on it is solid, the rest is transparent?). A BeOS titlebar is aligned to the left side of the window, would XUL allow me to align it to the right side while having the left transparent and dynamically resized as titlebar text changes? (If transparency is even possible?)