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New Skin and Another Big Change!

Tuesday October 26th, 1999

The new skin is in the 10-26 builds. Visit our builds page to get the latest. I find myself not minding the whitespace around the sidebar's border as much as I expected I would. However, there is one issue that troubles me. When you move the sidebar's "splitter", instead of moving a "ghost" of the splitter, you move the splitter itself. the problem is that if you're expanding the sidebar, the splitter disengages from the top and bottom border of the sidebar, leaving a white gap. If you shrink the width of the sidebar, the splitter moves past the right edge of the top and bottom borders of the sidebar, and the effect is just as bad. The answer would be to either 1) expand and contract the sidebar in realtime as the splitter is moved (probably slow), or 2) manipulate a "ghost" of the splitter during resize, and when the mouse button is released, move the actual splitter and resize the sidebar.

The second bit of news is that they've made more changes to the "incremental reflow" of the rendering engine. Now, the page will start rendering content even before reaching closing tags. This means a dramatic decrease in the time taken to get content displayed, and it's a great benefit when loading pages with long lists of data. But I find the content shifting disconcerting (check out mozilla.org, mozillazine.org and slashdot.org for examples if you have a 56k connection or slower), and the decrease in scrollbar responsiveness is vexing. Hopefully that will be working on these issues in the coming weeks leading up to the beta.


#31 My thoughts...

by odd <odd@findus.dhs.org>

Wednesday October 27th, 1999 3:26 PM

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To be completely honest, for a change, I must say I not in any way like the new skin.

It does not in any appeal to me. The Personal Toolbar folder is located ina very weird place and looks horrible. The circular buttons are plain stupid-looking to me, and there are also (in my build, 10-26 on Mac OS 8.5) some things that must be plain mistakes, like totally misplaced colours etc.

Like someone said - a NeoPlanet skin - made by a 45-year old man that wants to impress his 14-year old son that thinks WinAMP skins is the greatest thing.

The GUI shall be functional, and while still maintaing functionality, appearance can be polished.

Yeah I know my look upon these things might sound a little bit fascist, but a change in this direction was _not_ something I expected from the Mozilla/Netscape team.

To be a bit positive, "incremental flow" feels alright. Maybe a bit choppy at times, but overall it's good.

And another thing: what is going to be done about the very, very slow-loading contextual menu's (on mac, 10-26, 8.6, g3 300, 192mbram...) ?