Web Standards Project - NGLayout Petition

Thursday September 24th, 1998

The guys over at the Web Standards Project have placed on their front page a petition asking for Netscape to delay their 5.0 release until NGLayout can be integrated.

I have already sent a letter to two of their officials, Chris Carrico and George Olsen, about my opinions on this issue.

However, instead of pushing my opinions on you, I'm asking you, the community of developers and users who read mozillaZine, what you think.

Knowing what you know about the state of Mozilla, its progress, and the work being done on the current layout engine and the NGLayout engine (which you can read about here or at, is the WSP's petition an informed, fair action or an uninformed, unfair one? Tell us all what you think by clicking "talkback" above.

#3 Re:Web Standards Project - NGLayout Petition

by Alistair <>

Thursday September 24th, 1998 10:40 AM

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Mozilla and Communicator are far more than HTML layout engines, personally I am looking forward to better mail clients, an improved composer, better management of bookmarks and history and a completely customisable toolbar.

Netscape have to keep their browser releases roughly in sync. with Microsofts IE. If delays in debugging NGLayout meant that Communicator 5 is released months later than IE 5 we could see IE gaining significant market share, not necessarily a good thing for standards in itself.

This petition puzzles me slightly. Netscape / Mozilla are not saying they are not supporting or extending standards, they are simply having problems implementing them. No browser on the planet renders all the CSS and XML standards 100% correctly at this point in time, with the specification continuing to evolve perhaps this will always be the case. Mariner looks to be a great layout engine in itself, many people who use the Web for research and application management value the user interface of the browser more than the fine details of DHTML. Get the interface right and we'll be happy to wait for NGlayout in Communicator 6.