Context Menus And More!
Thursday September 30th, 1999
FrodoB writes, "Contextual menus landed in the past few days, thanks to some great work by Bill Law. Sans some bugs, the Lizard has just gotten a good deal closer to generally usable."
The context menus are a tad slow as of yet, but that should change soon. Also, you can make a selection and scroll the page with it. There are still bugs, but it's a great help, and brings Mozilla one step closer towards becoming a daily-use browser. Check out the recent nightly builds for your platform when you get a chance, and submit bug reports!
Also, the developers will be putting out an M10 release after all, and it should show up on the FTP site in a few days. According to a recent post in the newsgroups, they have done a little schedule restructuring and are shooting for a 12/15/99 Mozilla beta release. [note that this isn't a Communicator beta - that will occur later]
#1 Now only if . . .
by gerbilpower <email@example.com>
Friday October 1st, 1999 11:10 AM
Mozilla would actually work on me again. Last build to actually work on my stuped Windoze 98 was 1999092112. All builds after that have crashed before the browser window would show up. Anyone else experiencing this?
I used to have this all the time but sometime in July the nightly builds started running on my system.
I'm sure you have but just in case. Have you tried re-launching aprunner after these initial startup crashes. I have had lots of nightlies that crash the first run but seen to do fine the second or third time around. And also just in case (or for someone else experiencing similar problems) are you deleting the mozregistry.dat from the \windows directory. I've been successfull with at least three nightlies a week for the last couple months on both '98 and NT.
Solaris nightly builds have been totally hosed since early August.
Delete your c:\windows\mozregister.dat file and rerun apprunner. That should fix your problem.
by gerbilpower <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Friday October 1st, 1999 2:08 PM
That worked, thanx a bunch, now for bug hunting again . . . I feel so empowered by being able to right click now, hehe
Why is Mozilla still crashing witht this mozregister.dat file being messed??? Can't it do some detection and ignore problems, or prompt to delete it and start over (or migrate from its own older versions...)??? This just sound silly -- everyone has been having this problem for like a year.
I also have been having problems getting nightly builds to work, but for me it's with the Solaris version. It has worked in the past, but it seems like for the last month or more, it just core dumps right away. Is it just me? Does the mozilla code depend on any external libraries that might have slipped out of date?
I still have problems at startup with apprunner. The error says that a funtion is mission in a dll.
Wasn't Beta supposed to be about now, or did I miss a memo or something?
Not that I'm complaining. Please ship when its ready, not on some artificially generated time-line (sadly, like the project I'm currently working on...)
Keep up the great work MozCoders!
Yeah, I think the beta was about now. But then again Windows 1000 was released at the beginning of 1999 and called NT5, remember?
I haven't tried this fix yet, but I think my mozregistry file got trashed when I ran an older version (and I could still run older versions). Do other people find the same?
#11 Moz Beta late DECEMBER?
by danielhill <email@example.com>
Friday October 1st, 1999 8:06 PM
I dunno, I think it may be too late for Netscape and Mozilla to regain lost ground to IE.
WE know that Mozilla will kick ARSE, and WE are prepared to wait, but will Joe Public switch from IE5?? I doubt it.
Will AOL 5.0 make a difference? Nah. I'm not that familiar with AOL, but I get e-mail from people using AOL 3.0 and 2.0, even 1.0. So I guess you don't have to upgrade.
As I said before, I and it seems most other MZ readers can wait for a kick arse browser, but I can't see the 75% of Web users using IE switching. D'oh!
The thing to remember is that "Joe Public" is a sheep. People tend to do whatever the mainstream media says is best.
IE is so popular because anytime someone does a "browser shoot-out" or whatever comparison they always say how IE completely whips Netscape's rear.
One of the Mac mags did a comparison and Netscape came out on top for various reasons. They've really neglected the Mac as of late it doesn't do proportional scroll bars or even conform to Platinum. It's still my browser of choice regardless.
If Mozilla is as good and fast as everyone is hoping it is and the mags/internet sites give it a fair shake than Mozilla can and will pick up PC market share. Mac share is practicaly a given and it's a no contest under Linux/Be.
If it remains a compact download than it's acceptance will be all the swifter.
I just hope they "localize" it's chrome for their respective OSs binaries. That purpleish look is kinda odd and may be a turn off as well as the non-standard widgets.
I dunno, it kinda makes mozilla stand out from the other browsers. Maybe this should be the subject of a new poll:
What do you think mozilla should look like on release?: * Like it does now * Like Netscape 4 * OS-specific chrome
They should definitely make different download options for the different looks. Motif/Windows/Mac/etc. It will be simpiler for the average user to pick his OS and have the browser look like a native app. Later when the user gets more experienced, he can switch skins, but I'd just have preset bundles available for the different UIs. Why just offer one?
#14 Nightly build problems? not me....
Saturday October 2nd, 1999 5:07 AM
I have been using nightly builds for a couple of months now, but I guess not everybody formats their hard drive on a fortnightly basis....
I'm running 19990982412 for Windows. Do I need to be using a particular build to get the context menus? Will these be in M10 or do we have to wait until #11 to get this functionality in a Milestone release?
Otherwise, speed and stability improvements are much in evidence, especially on startup. (Except that I had to switch back to Communicator to I could post this.) Keep up the good work, coders...
Sorry, that was supposed to "1999082412", file dated 01 October.
That's an old version, from August. Get a fairly recent version and the context menus are enabled. I have the Oct 4 build (1999100409), and it works smashingly.