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Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

Tuesday September 21st, 1999

Wondering why all the Mozilla merchandise has disappeared from the Netscape Store? So has Dave Titus. Who's Dave Titus? Well, read on, and you'll find out.

Dave writes, "What happened to Mozilla, the official Netscape mascot?

Is the little green guy ever going to bless the pages of Netscape or Mozilla related web sites again? It seems like the advent of Netscape and the Mozilla software originally went hand in hand with Mozilla the mascot, but since AOL got into the picture all mention of him and the attitude he represented with those dedicated to Netscape was pushed away and sent into the circular file. I want him back and so do alot of dedicated Netscape/Mozilla surfers.

Clothing, bags, clocks, watches, stuffed animals, mugs, scarves, jackets and much, much more was all developed and sold to the general public by Netscape. How can this kind of popularity be forgotten so easily and how can we lay to rest our 'Web travel guide', Mozilla, who so generously gave himself to the world and was a veritable icon of the beginnings of the Internet as we know it today.

As creator of Mozilla the mascot, I've received mail from all over the world; Japan, Sweden, Germany, Australia and many other places praising the existence of mozilla as someone who warms the heart and brightens up the Internet experience.

Mozilla needs to keep walking the Web and should not be abandoned by those who brought him into the world."

I agree. I was looking to purchase some more of the Mozilla stuffed animals for promotions and such. Netscape, what's going on?


#1 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by Anon

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 12:15 PM

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Yeah, and bring back Coke Classic and _My So Called Life_ too!

#28 Well there's still about:mozilla

by Anon

Friday September 24th, 1999 5:52 AM

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about:mozilla

#2 What about CopyLeft?

by samig <samig@gega.net>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:04 PM

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Why doesn't mozilla team up with copyleft for such merchandise? I think slashdot and all are doing it so mozilla might try too :-)

#7 That's a good idea

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:40 PM

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After a stroll (or scroll) down Copyleft's web site, I think it's a good idea. Their geek-ware market and open-source support fits Mozilla so I don't see what's wrong with your suggestion right now.

I want my Mozilla merchandise!

#3 What about CopyLeft?

by samig <samig@gega.net>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:05 PM

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Why doesn't mozilla team up with copyleft for such merchandise? I think slashdot and all are doing it so mozilla might try too :-)

#4 good luck

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:16 PM

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You would have to take the sales figures for the merchandise into account as far as that goes. I bet that all that stuff sold not enough to bother keeping in stock.

<http://www.dmoz.org> (the open source Netscape directory) still has moz up in many places, including buttons to link to dmoz. Netscape pulled him off of their main pages long before AOL, I'm afraid, and he was just pretty much left as merchandise that likely no one knew what the heck was for.

As far as the sites, moz is not a green lizard at mozilla.org (he's a big, red TREX) and not present in any form here - the very Zine of mozilla - nor to my knowledge has he ever been. Here we have a blimp. That can't help matters.

Finally, the sad fact is that most Netscape users today have never heard of mozilla. In any case, as the browsers will be seperate (Mozilla is a base for the Navigator browser, but also for others) it follows that the images of the two browsers have diverged and will continue to do so. IMHO, if you want Mozilla to continue to have an identity, mozilla pages need to follow suit. Maybe you could ask Dave for a new moz holding a Zine for this site.

#25 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by thelem

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 3:45 PM

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Before I got interested in Mozilla.org I had never heard nor seen the green lizzard and I have been using Netscape since version 2 was released. Infact I only knew that mozilla was what Netscape (and IE used as their code name)

At first I thought the lizzard was the gecko mascot, and I don't know WHAT that ballon signifies.

Lemmimg

#5 I Want My Stuffed Mozilla!

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:24 PM

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Yeah, an odd place for a request but are there any Mozilla merchandise still in existence at all? I've known about Mozilla since 1996 but never realized that there was Mozilla merchandise until a few weeks ago when I saw a stuffed Mozilla picture on another web site. I want one!

Okay, sorry, I just need stuff to decorate my future dorm desk, hehe.

#6 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by arielb

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 1:39 PM

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gerbil's talking about my website <http://members.xoom.com/mozilla5/> Isn't baby mozilla cuuute? :)

#8 mozilla.org

by badben

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 3:13 PM

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mozilla.org an handed out merchandize as BugAThon prizes recently. Where did they get it from?

#9 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by Lynggaard <Lynggaard@netscape.net>

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 4:27 PM

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I Want Mozilla Mechandise too.

It can only go too slow

#10 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by Anon

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 7:02 PM

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Seems that Netscape is dropping support on Mozilla, doesn't it =:-(

#11 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by Anon

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 7:30 PM

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Netscape should bring back the green Mozilla lizard. That would give them something to better compete with against Evie the evil "e". :-)

#12 Yeah

by BigShu

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 7:39 PM

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That was the whole point of my Trobber, whay back druing the Throbber contest. Mozilla eating the evil "e"/world. Granted it only kinda turned out and it has noting to do with merchandice, but. . . whatever.

#13 Yeah

by BigShu

Tuesday September 21st, 1999 7:41 PM

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That was the whole point of my Trobber, whay back druing the Throbber contest. Mozilla eating the evil "e"/world. Granted it only kinda turned out and it has noting to do with merchandice, but. . . whatever.

#14 Aha! I know what we need!

by xgray <xgray@netscape.net>

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 8:47 AM

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One of you 'skin' experts needs to make a Mozilla chrome package complete with little green Mozilla buttons and the works...okay now get to work!

#15 Dave Titus On The Missing Green Lizard

by dtitus <dtitus@qnet.com>

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 10:07 AM

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Thanks to everyone who responded to the aticle on the Green Lizard. I appreciate knowing that people really do care about such things.

Dave

#16 Mozilla

by Anon

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 12:12 PM

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I've set the homepage on the Linux version of communicator to about:mozilla so my throbber automatically changes to the lizard. Mozilla is so cool that it shouldn't be forgotten, in fact I think the Netscape branded versions should use the Mozilla animation (the one in Netscape when you type about:mozilla not the one in the nightly builds) instead of the stars. This would at least be a way of acknowledging the mozilla name.

#17 Moz fighting Microsoft

by Anon

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 12:15 PM

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On this <http://members.tripod.com/~antiMicrosoft/> site Mozilla is fighting Microsoft.

#18 I miss the Green Mozilla

by jmissig <x-virge@shafe.com>

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 7:39 PM

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He's cool

#19 Maybe it's about branding

by braden <braden@endoframe.com>

Wednesday September 22nd, 1999 9:35 PM

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Consider that as Mozilla becomes Not Just Netscape, it may (and will, I hope) involve some of AOL's competitors. In this scenario, AOL will want to emphasize the value *they* uniquely add to the Mozilla base in their branded products. Thus I would expect them to emphasize *their* brand over Mozilla's. Don't expect AOL to market Mozilla.

#20 Mozilla vs. Netscape

by Anon

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 9:50 AM

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Could it be done like Netscape was renamed to Mozilla ? it would be great.

#21 Mozilla merchandise is still available!!!

by dtitus <dtitus@qnet.com>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 10:41 AM

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I just found out that you can still purchase Mozilla Merchandise from the Netscape store in Mountain View, CA. They have a company store on Campus (at their offices) that sells the merchandise. I was told that the on-line store was discontinued because it doesn't fit AOL's business model. Anyone who may want to acquire some of the last remaining Mozilla stuff should get while they can.

Dave

#22 Mozilla merchandise is still available!!!

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 10:50 AM

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Sure, I'll run on down! Of course the 2000 miles is a damper. Do they have a mailing address perhaps?

#23 Mozilla merchandise is still available!!!

by gerbilpower <gerbil@ucdavis.edu>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 11:31 AM

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Can we somehow get them by mail? I live 400 miles away, although when I go to college next week it will be less than a 100 but still a distance away.

AOL's business model? Hell I want my Mozilla Merchy!

And is the merchandise regularily stocked or is it LAST of the last?

#24 Contact Netscape for Mozilla Stuff

by dtitus <dtitus@qnet.com>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 12:05 PM

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I'm sure you could get the address and phone number of Netscape from the Netscape Web site, but if you have trouble doing that here is what I have:

650-254-1900 Netscape Communications 501 E. Middlefield Rd. Mountain View, CA 94043

I suppose you ask for the Netscape Store.

I don't know the status of the in-stock merchandise or whether any more will be produced or not.

Dave

#26 check the Mozilla Museum...

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 5:45 PM

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#27 Mozilla encyclopedia

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday September 23rd, 1999 5:52 PM

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From <http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/mozilla.html> "14 And the Lizard spake, saying, Windows shall I support, and Macintosh, and the divers flavours of Unix; yea, even unto the latest effluvium from the Gates of Hell shall I spread my seed: this it pleaseth me to do. 15 But OS/2 shall I ignore, for in sooth nobody useth it. 16 Then was the land filled with the sound of much wailing and gnashing of teeth, for millions of people used OS/2 and knew that it was good. Yet the Lizard did harden his heart against them, and said, Nay, there is no demand for it. 18 And those that followed the Lizard became enamoured of Frames, and wrote pages which could not be read by the Lizard's brethren, for the lemmings were lazy, saying only: Verily, thy browser doth suck. Thou may'st obtain the Lizard's hence."

#29 test

by Anon

Friday September 24th, 1999 12:13 PM

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test

#30 test

by Anon

Friday September 24th, 1999 12:14 PM

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test