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New IRC Client

Tuesday September 7th, 1999

Robert Ginda has checked in his IRC client into the tree. Like the XSLT engine, it's not built by default yet, and according to Rob "I'm working on gettting --enable-extension=irc to work, until then making it is too much of a kludge to publish :)".

We'll let you know when it's testable, but for now you can view the README or check out the code.

Thanks to Steve Morrison (who maintains our ChromeZone area) for the news.


#5 Re: It came from Tim Berners-Lee

by orev

Tuesday September 7th, 1999 1:25 PM

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Yes, It's nice to listen to some of the founders of a technology, but we as "the rest of us" need to keep the visionaries in check sometimes, and keep them rooted in reality. There are lot's of things out there that sounded like good ideas, but when they were implemented, they were just too big or too complex to be truly useful to anyone.

Browsers now support many protocols, as you mention, but all of those protocols are pretty much static (HTTP gets a file. FTP gets a file. LDAP gets some info. ...). Actually putting a really interactive protocol like IRC or IM into it creates a whole new beast. It's no longer a "Document Viewer", it is now a "All-in-one-do-everything-super-bloated-huge-download" application.

You can't expect every app to support every protocol. I think things should be done taking the UNIX approach: "This app does this one thing, and it does that thing very well. If I want to do something else, I will create another app that does that one thing very well, and figure out how to get them all to work together".

The Windows(TM) approach is this: "Hmm, that program does this thing pretty cool, so I'm going to make my program do that cool thing too, and that cool thing, and that other cool thing..." Which leads to the dismal state that Windows is in right now.

Which side is the Mozilla project on?