Full Article Attached Gecko's Realm Gets a Facelift

Thursday August 5th, 1999

Shashi Narain, proprietor of The Gecko's Realm, writes, "The Gecko's Realm has undergone a major facelift and is now up and running for your viewing pleasure. For those of you who don't know where the site is located, it can be found here:

A number of you over at Netscape have seen bits and pieces of the redesigned site from all my bug reporting. Now is your chance to see it as one tight, cohesive package.

Before heading over to the Realm, there are a number of items that you need to keep in mind...

1) All elements are positioned absolutely using 800x600 as the benchmark screen resolution. It is imperitive that your screen and/or Mozilla window be at 800x600 because of the element positioning.

2) The site was redesigned using the July 30th build as the benchmark. I make no guarantee that the site will work with earlier builds.

3) Please use apprunner and *not* viewer when going to the site. The reason is because all the various exhibits open in a separate Mozilla window using JS's which does not work with viewer. It is also recommended that you minimize the toolbar which contains the 'Home' and 'My Netscape' buttons. This gives the site a little more 'canvas' to work with.

4) For those of you tempted to try the site using IE5, let me save you the time by saying, 'Don't Bother!!!' Most of the DOM Level 1 that I use is *not* supported in IE5...I even manged to crash IE on a number of occasions when I tried it out."

UPDATE: Shashi has written in with an explanation as to the purpose of the site, and a reply to some of the posts in the talkback forum for this news item. Click "Full Article" below to read his comments.

#31 Lesson remains unlearned (2)

by Anon

Sunday August 8th, 1999 5:13 PM

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Well, I thought I'd better come back now that I've hacked my way through the Javascript to get at more of the site. All the pages on this site are exactly like Microsoft's supposed "CSS demos" when they first had some working CSS. The first thing I do with these pages is view them in a nice, simple, standards compliant browser which doesn't have CSS. Just like those Microsoft pages, Gecko breaks the rules. Rather than use style to control appearance, the content is altered to fit the style. The structure of the documents is irretrievably destroyed in order to "Look cool". Here's what some typical "enhanced" CSS pages look like: -------------------- W E L C O M E tobobsCSSenhancedpages START FINISH MIDDLE ABOUT ME INDEX This is the beginning This is the of the document end of the document Actually I'm supposed to be a pop-up explanatory box! -------------------- So how is CSS helping here? The fight has already been lost once with Frames (which are now Kewl, rather than useful) must we always lose? Nick.