Jeremy Allaire on the Death of Mozilla
Saturday July 31st, 1999
Tony Gorman has news of some interesting statements from Allaire Corporation's Jeremy Allaire. Tony writes:
"Jeremy Allaire of ColdFusion fame has gone on record saying that ColdFusion no longer supports the Netscape browser. In this month's issue of the UK Internet magazine 'Webspace', JA states that 'Netscape is dead and so is the Mozilla project'. Tough words for fans of the Netscape browser. He goes on to argue that widespread of DHTML has been held back by Netscape's idiosyncratic implementation and only Microsoft offers a useful platform...
Webspace apparently doesn't have a website, so I can't confirm this. However, if it is true, Jeremy's statements show an appalling lack of understanding of the status of DHTML at this point in time. IE's DHTML isn't standards compliant (neither is Communicator 4.6's DHTML) and thus any judgement regarding it must be tempered by the fact that much of the "usefulness" is probably derived from MS proprietary extensions that no other browser maker should feel obligated to duplicate. Maybe some of you more knowledgable people out there could give some background on how IE's current DOM implementation is lacking in terms of standards compliance.
UPDATE:Jeremy Allaire has a response in our forums, so be sure to check it out. Thanks Jeremy!
#46 Correct, but you cannot access the default props..
Wednesday August 4th, 1999 3:38 PM
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That's right. You specified it yourself. Currently, you cannot get at the sizes, positions, etc of an element as mozilla renders it.
That is, try this:
<script>var mv=10;</script><div id="mydiv" style="border: 1px dashed black; padding: 2px; position: relative;" onclick="this.style.left = mv + 'px'; mv += 10; dump(this.style.left + '\n')">click</div>
<div id="somediv" style="border: 1px solid blue; position: relative;" onclick="dump(this.style.left+'\n')">Hi div</div> <br> <br>
<span style="background: blue">Blah blah just here to push the next span over some</span><span id="anotherdiv" style="border: 1px dashed black; padding: 2px; position: relative;" onclick="dump('This is how far to the left mozilla placed me by default: [' + this.style.left + ']\n')">Click here to see this.style.left property (or lack of property resolution thereof) </span>