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Jeremy Allaire on the Death of Mozilla

Saturday July 31st, 1999

Tony Gorman has news of some interesting statements from Allaire Corporation's Jeremy Allaire. Tony writes:

"Jeremy Allaire of ColdFusion fame has gone on record saying that ColdFusion no longer supports the Netscape browser. In this month's issue of the UK Internet magazine 'Webspace', JA states that 'Netscape is dead and so is the Mozilla project'. Tough words for fans of the Netscape browser. He goes on to argue that widespread of DHTML has been held back by Netscape's idiosyncratic implementation and only Microsoft offers a useful platform...

I would love to write this guy off... but Allaire isn't exactly a no hope company. Should his words be left to stand? I hope not."

Webspace apparently doesn't have a website, so I can't confirm this. However, if it is true, Jeremy's statements show an appalling lack of understanding of the status of DHTML at this point in time. IE's DHTML isn't standards compliant (neither is Communicator 4.6's DHTML) and thus any judgement regarding it must be tempered by the fact that much of the "usefulness" is probably derived from MS proprietary extensions that no other browser maker should feel obligated to duplicate. Maybe some of you more knowledgable people out there could give some background on how IE's current DOM implementation is lacking in terms of standards compliance.

UPDATE:Jeremy Allaire has a response in our forums, so be sure to check it out. Thanks Jeremy!


#39 Netscape is dead, long live Mozilla?

by braden <braden@endoframe.com>

Monday August 2nd, 1999 5:56 PM

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There is an important and interesting point underlying Mr. Allaire's comments: Netscape, once *the* flagship brand of the WWW, has *lost credibility* with developers. Credit a stream of consistently under-achieving 4.x releases (from a developer's perspective) and the long delay in pushing 5.0 out of the door. Top that off with the fact that Netscape nolonger exists as its own corporation, but has basically been reduced to just another brand owned by AOL.

I am enthusiastic about Mozilla, and thus sympathetic to the delay. But it is hard for me to fault developers for losing faith in the Netscape brand.

I think the Mozilla project should be quite proud of the fact that Web developers (mostly) continue to be enthusiastic about the project in spite of their qualms about its heritage. Perhaps AOL would be wise to capitalize on the Mozilla brand in packaging a browser, rather shackle such a product with the "Netscape" name.

Braden