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RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

Wednesday July 7th, 1999

Edward J. Burns of Sun has some good news on the RaptorCanvas project (embedding Gecko in Java).

Edward writes, "On April 25th, it was reported here that Kirk Baker successfully embedded the raptor layout system into a Java Application and called it RaptorCanvas. Today, I am happy to report that Kirk and Ian are collaborating with a team in the Java Software organization from Sun Microsystems to contribute this work to mozilla.org. The team at Sun is a part of the Netscape-Sun alliance and is working on the RaptorCanvas project and other projects aimed at more smoothly integrating the Java platform with mozilla. At present, no schedule information is available, but Sun and Netscape are in talks to explore exactly how and where to make the work available. The current plan is to make the core RaptorCanvas code available under the NPL."


#1 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 7:57 AM

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Cool. Since NG Amiga will be built with Java2, mozilla will barely need to be ported for it.

#2 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by woudt

Thursday July 8th, 1999 9:00 AM

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Not really. It will not be a 100% java implementation of gecko. Instead it is a native interface to gecko, which means gecko still needs to be ported to the Amiga.

#3 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by wheezy

Thursday July 8th, 1999 11:02 AM

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Well, I don't know anything about the Amiga coming back (maybe I need to keep more up to date on my obsessive Slashdot monitoring) but it is certainly a Good Thing that Gecko is being interfaced to Java. While it unfortunately doesn't mean that Gecko will be portable to a wider number of platforms (since the engine itself is native code, as mentioned by woudt) it does mean another "language binding" if you can call it that, to Gecko. And more language bindings mean wider use. And wider use means further world domination... Unfortunately, the scope of world domination may be limited, since I can't think of any direct corellation between more "mozilla cousins" and smaller IE market share, but whatever, it's cool anyway.

#4 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 11:19 AM

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So embedding Gecko into Java, how is this different from Jazilla?

BTW, NG Amiga, built on the QNX Neutrino real-time OS with Java2, has AmigaObjects, a transactional object environment that they say allows programmers to create powerful applications for any OS fast. Before you laugh, Amiga ( <http://www.amiga.com> ) is releasing a technical brief this week, and I will put the link to it up in this forum for anyone who's interested.

#5 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by SomeSmartAss

Thursday July 8th, 1999 1:29 PM

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"how is this different from Jazilla?"

To the best of my knowledge, Jazilla is a 100% pure Java browser based on some version of the Mozilla Source. Now, I don't know if they've started using the NGLayout code (Gecko et al), or if they're slugging it out with the Mozilla Classic Code.

I wonder what this means for HotJava...

#6 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 3:03 PM

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I thought the HotJava was to be folded into Communicator, or so I read.

#7 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by arielb

Thursday July 8th, 1999 3:06 PM

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Now mozilla can be used as an activeX control and as part of a java app. That makes it much more interesting for developers.

As far as cross-platform is concerned-mozilla will be on many platforms including os/2, BeOS and maybe even openVMS. I just wonder what happened to the DOSzilla project...

#8 offtopic: amiga

by arielb

Thursday July 8th, 1999 3:23 PM

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kovu, check out this link for amiga pics <http://www.neko.freeserve.co.uk/>

#9 Re:RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 3:55 PM

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thanks arielb. Actually those pics came from <http://www.qnx.com/amiga/> the QNX Website, where they have some interesting info on the QNX/Amiga thing (like they've had 40 programmers working for 7 months on QNX/Amiga and the Photon GUI, which you see in those shots. It's not the tech brief that I promised, but it's a start.

#10 This is only a test

by mozineAdmin

Thursday July 8th, 1999 4:40 PM

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test

#12 test 2 n/t

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 7:21 PM

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n/t

#11 Amiga MCC color concept drawings out

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 7:20 PM

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<http://www.realdreams.cz/…ga/local/8_7drawings.html> Oh my my my my it has begun, tech brief still to come...

#13 Amiga drawings

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 7:34 PM

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Schweet!

#14 Tech brief here

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Thursday July 8th, 1999 8:36 PM

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Tech brief here. QNX is looking for those who want to beta test the QNX/AmigaNG developer OS can sign up for free x86 beta software. They're looking for those who want to port apps--like Mozilla--to NG Amiga in particular.

"A brief glimpse: massively scalable, multi-threaded, fault-tolerant, realtime OS designed for devices and computers of any type or size. QNX provides a unique network architecture where large full-service protocol stacks aren't required on each computer and devices plugged into the network are simply "discovered" automatically by other devices - all services and peripherals of the new device can then be used by any other device in the network. QNX is also the only self-hosted RTOS where the development environment and the runtime target environment are the same."

#20 NOT TECH BRIEF, SORRY! n/t

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Friday July 9th, 1999 7:59 PM

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n/t

#15 RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by iand <id@openjava.org>

Friday July 9th, 1999 2:15 AM

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I thought Amiga had decided to drop all the QNX stuff in favour of Linux. See <http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html>

#16 RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by arielb

Friday July 9th, 1999 3:25 AM

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yeah like we really need another linux distro

#17 RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Anon

Friday July 9th, 1999 11:52 AM

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Who is saying it will be a Linux distro? The press releases says that it will use the Linux KERNEL. It doesn't say anything about using any other parts, including system libraries, shells, Unix utilities, init etc.

It won't have to look like Linux at all. But it still has the possibility of combining it with Linux for those who wants to run Linux apps alongside Amiga apps.

But it's the hardware platform that's most interesting... I'm getting really curious about it now.

Btw., this also means that Linux will run on their new hardware platform from day one, which is good if their hardware platform turns out to be as exciting as they claim :)

#19 RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Friday July 9th, 1999 7:58 PM

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Darn you anonys! I'll put the REAL tech brief up when it comes out (or the link will be at my <http://www.amiganation.com> site first) :)

#18 RaptorCanvas Project Picked Up By Sun

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Friday July 9th, 1999 7:55 PM

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Yep! QNX posted their site yesterday, for some reason, and then Amiga posted news today with the Linux bombshell. They are using only the kernel of Linux, though.

#21 NG AMIGA TECH BRIEF RELEASED

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Friday July 16th, 1999 10:19 AM

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