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The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

Thursday June 10th, 1999

The animation contest ended at 12:00 EST today. We didn't get as many entries as I expected, but the overall quality is much higher than in the previous contest. If you are finishing up an animation, we'll give you a little leeway - just get it into us quickly.

We still have one more public test of the survey code to do before we put up the animations for the final vote. That test will occur today or tomorrow, and the final vote sometime around the beginning of next week.

Thanks to all the entrants for their efforts!


#1 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by SomeSmartAss

Thursday June 10th, 1999 10:26 AM

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Any of them "Illegal or Offensive"??

;)

#2 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by mozineAdmin

Thursday June 10th, 1999 11:05 AM

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heh. nope. BTW, Mozilla.org requested that I put that clause in there...

#3 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by ERICmurphy <murphye@gmail.com>

Thursday June 10th, 1999 11:40 AM

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I started to work on an animation of my own, then became stuck because of the tight restrictions of size and color.

I highly praise anyone who entered into the contest with a decent gif.

#4 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by SomeSmartAss

Thursday June 10th, 1999 12:02 PM

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"Mozilla.org requested that I put that clause in there"

Actually not a bad idea realy. It is suprising what people might find offensive, or to be more acurate, what we (in the the ambiguous sence) didn't even realize was offensive. Heck, this second contest is because of that very thing...

"Recently, we have heard numerous complaints regarding the English phrases in the winning animation from the last contest."

I'm actually suprised nobody complained about the term "Throbber" in the first place.

#5 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by Anon

Thursday June 10th, 1999 12:11 PM

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> I'm actually suprised nobody complained about the term "Throbber" in the first place.

Because it's English or because it's offensive? :)

-Devin

#6 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by Anon

Thursday June 10th, 1999 12:12 PM

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change the freakin poll

#7 Re:English or Offensive

by SomeSmartAss

Thursday June 10th, 1999 12:27 PM

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Dunno,

What's "Throbber" in German?

#8 Re:English or Offense

by Beafsteak <christian.mattar@fh-aachen.de>

Thursday June 10th, 1999 1:53 PM

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Hmm, i don't know the exact translation, but Babel Fish would translate it into "Throbber" :). Whatever, i wouldn't assume anyone over here is offended.

#9 Re:English or Offense

by tintsch

Thursday June 10th, 1999 2:21 PM

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In German it means: "Hämmerer" or "Pocher"... You cannot exactly translate it but it isn't offensive at all.

#10 Re:English or Offense

by Anon

Thursday June 10th, 1999 3:46 PM

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How do you pronounce "Hämmerer" ? anything like "hummer" ?

-Mind hopelessly in the gutter...

#11 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by Jordy

Thursday June 10th, 1999 4:09 PM

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I didn't send my address or anything with my animatation deal... (it didn't say to do it when I first sent it in)...

All I really want is a t-shirt since I need some new clothes :)

#12 Re:English or Offensive

by SomeSmartAss

Thursday June 10th, 1999 5:37 PM

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"Hämmerer"

That sounds like a bad 80's Metal cover band....

You know, the kind that thought that playing scales up through the octaves REALY FAST was cool.

#13 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by arielb

Thursday June 10th, 1999 8:54 PM

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Well, the last contest got more responses because it was publicised by mozilla.org just a short time after the source code was released. Maybe devedge also covered it-I don't know.

The other potential problem is that the throbber might not look good with the chrome in the end.

#14 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by zuperdee

Friday June 11th, 1999 1:07 AM

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To Arielb: Here's hoping that we pick a throbber that will go well with the chrome. Of course, I assume that the 'branded Netscape' product that will result from Mozilla is going to replace it with the 'N' logo w/ the comets anyway, so it *better* look good! <g>

#15 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by arielb

Friday June 11th, 1999 1:57 AM

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I'm just saying that after mozilla goes beta and we have complete XUL and optimizations etc, that we have a chrome contest that covers everything as a whole-not just one little element.

#16 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by zuperdee

Friday June 11th, 1999 3:58 AM

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That sounds like an excellent idea to me, too. All I'm saying is that I am wondering what the default will be like when Netscape does the branding... Especially if they decide to make the Throbber unconfigurable, which they could do still--after all, the 'N' with the comets is one of their prized trademarks, which they seem very intent on protecting (which is why it didn't go into Mozilla in the first place, I assume).

#17 NS Throbber

by Anon

Friday June 11th, 1999 11:43 AM

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The Netscape throbber doesn't really apply here, because it you want you can continue to use the Mozilla binaries I expect. Netscape's version will probably have the comet-throbber, and have a couple of extra features, but it'll also have some useless crud thrown in like AOL Instant Messenger.

So if you don't want the Netscape version, just keep downloading from Mozilla.Org.....

-=Yusuf=-, undecided as to which browser (Mozilla or Netscape) he will eventually use.....

#18 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by SomeSmartAss

Friday June 11th, 1999 11:55 AM

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"Especially if they decide to make the Throbber unconfigurable,"

You can already make custom versions of N4.x with different "non-Netscape" throbbers, so I don't see them locking in the comet-N throbber.

#19 Re:"Throbber"

by brobinson

Friday June 11th, 1999 12:18 PM

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You might be surprised to find what kind of words you can search for on the internet and find porn. If you'd search for "throbber", you'd likely find porn. I've had quite a few decent search queries return porn before. What is the world coming to?

#20 Re:"Throbber"

by wheezy

Friday June 11th, 1999 1:42 PM

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Yeah, even innocuous .com's can be porn. I'm not sure, but I think "toes.com" was porn...

Oh, and German "ä" is pretty much pronounced like a short "e" in English... Sorry :)

#21 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by SomeSmartAss

Friday June 11th, 1999 2:03 PM

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"I've had quite a few decent search queries return porn before. What is the world coming to?"

Not just queries return porn now, the occasional webstats program does too... <http://analog.gsp.com/webtechs.html>

#22 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by Anon

Friday June 11th, 1999 2:07 PM

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Searching Google for throbber leads to some non-porn sites on the first page..

#23 Different term for the Throbber

by zuperdee

Friday June 11th, 1999 3:15 PM

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If the term "Throbber" has such dirty connotations, maybe we should come up with a different term for it?

#24 Re: Throbber

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Friday June 11th, 1999 5:20 PM

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The best part about 'Throbber' is the connotation. The only good alternatives would have to have similar connotations and 'pulsating letter M' just doesn't ring like 'throbber'.

#25 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by zuperdee

Friday June 11th, 1999 8:40 PM

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On the other hand, maybe we should go back to the 'folding panes M' throbber that was in the early Mosaic Netscape betas. I vote we use that. Everybody agree? I mean hey, I thought that logo was cool.

#26 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by brobinson

Saturday June 12th, 1999 5:06 PM

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Maybe "animated logo"? I hope any of you that haven't figured out exactly why the term "throbber" would even have a negative connotation have figured it out or those who haven't should visit this page: <http://www.stim.com/Stim-…May/Sparky/throbbers.html> Don't worry, the subject of the page is Netscape throbbers but it does mention a certain negative connotation that some sick porn site operators might and likely have associated with the word for the sake of getting hits.

#27 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by Anon

Saturday June 12th, 1999 6:53 PM

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the first throbber was a big letter 'M' that was animated to pulse (throb).

#28 Re:First Throbbers

by zuperdee

Sunday June 13th, 1999 12:07 AM

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No, actually the first throbber, which was included with the early "Mosaic Netscape" betas, was a white 'M' inside of a circle, with "folding panes" behind it. If you find some of these early Mosaic Netscape public betas (e.g. v0.90, 0.91, 0.92, or 0.93), check it out--I thought it was cool. In many ways, I think it was better than anything Netscape has now.

#29 Re:The Animation Contest Is Now Closed!

by arielb

Sunday June 13th, 1999 12:43 AM

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thanks for the link brob