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Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

Saturday June 5th, 1999

Jeremy Lea has started an SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) project for Mozilla. Click here to read his post in the layout newsgroup. We have his current screenshot here of a simple SVG file displaying in Mozilla.

He's looking for help, so please contact him if you are interesting in getting SVG into Mozilla.


#1 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by Anon

Sunday June 6th, 1999 1:24 AM

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I really hope that Mozilla will end up with SVG, SMIL, MathML, and eventually XSL.

With SVG, you can do some really cool things, especially if it's dynamic. You can layout a UI much better than using GIFs, and do Flash like animation with JavaScript or SMIL.

#2 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by Anon

Sunday June 6th, 1999 2:36 AM

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now's the time

#3 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by SomeSmartAss

Sunday June 6th, 1999 10:05 AM

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Two questions...

1)It looked to me that the way to imbed an SVG image in HTML was through an <object></object> tag, with an <img> tag in between. But browsers that understand <object> simply ignore what's in between the opening and closing tags? so if you've got a browser that understands <object> but can't render an .SVG, won't there just be big ugly empty boxes everywhere? (or am I total out to lunch here)

2) Is there going to be a .CGM to .SVG conversion tool? (hello Corel... you're on the .svg comitee...) This would be nice... since the most obvious use for this would be to render company logos, which can get very complex, and to sit there and try and hand code this <http://www.improv.ca/graphics/willy.gif> which is a relatively simple logo (for the Canadian Improv Games), would be a pain in the butt (at least for me)

#15 CGM to SVG Conversion

by kmartin7

Saturday March 6th, 2004 5:33 AM

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A company named DocSoft is developing a CGM to SVG converter software. I am a beta tester for this software. <http://www.docsoft.com/cgm2svgDev.htm>

#4 Re: Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by Anon

Monday June 7th, 1999 12:41 AM

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SomeSmartAss:

Nope, OBJECT element contents are _not_ automatically ignored by every OBJECT-supporting browser.

The contents should also be rendered by an OBJECT-supporting user agent which cannot render the particular OBJECT in question (eg. when the file format is unsupported).

#5 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by arielb

Monday June 7th, 1999 1:20 AM

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responding to first anon I think another cool project would be to just complete the css2 implementation (I'm not talking about aural stylesheets and everything that has nothing to do with screen or print). The nice thing is we're seeing more and more open source projects that extend mozilla as opposed to just tinkering around the edges. Of course we need alot of bug fixes

#6 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by SomeSmartAss

Monday June 7th, 1999 1:54 AM

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"Nope"

Cool.

Question answered, Thanks.

#7 About the screen shot

by Anon

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 1:56 AM

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Maybe it's just me, but the screen shot didn't look very sexy.

Doesn't make me drool over this new feature yet :-)

- Samuli

#8 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by SomeSmartAss

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 7:40 AM

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"the screen shot didn't look very sexy"

No, I guess not... unless your into that 70's minimalist art that was just cubes and lines.

But it is a nice first step. and as an image format, it is much smaller than any pixel format, and easily scalable without loss of resolution. hopefully they will incorperate some sort of anti-aliasing for angles as well. Hopefully true anti-aliasing that takes into consideration the color of the layer/object/image behind it, and not just the background color of the document. TrueDoc portable fonts do that, so you get nasty jaggies if you're not careful.

#9 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by arielb

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 10:07 AM

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downloadable fonts is another good project for others to work on

#10 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by arielb

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 10:26 AM

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downloadable fonts is another good project for others to work on

#11 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by SomeSmartAss

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 12:37 PM

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Aren't both Portable font technologies proprietary? The MS one (forgot the name, sorry) has some serious copyright issues too.

#12 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by Anon

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 5:17 PM

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What's exactly the differences between SVG and Flash ?

I understand that Flash spec is public. What are related legal issues ?

Who will use SVG instead of flash ?

#14 Re: Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by garrethg

Friday December 17th, 1999 3:57 AM

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But SVG documents are written in XML with all that entails...

Indexable by search engines

Scriptable via DOM API

Transformable via XSL

etc., etc.

JavaScript programmers like myself will be falling over ourselves to support SVG.

I don't think Flash has a real scripting interface to speak of, but I'm a bit out of date with Macromedia products. Realisticly speaking I don't think the Flash format has much of a future in the face of SVG, Macromedia may keep the name but it will probably become a SVG development tool.

#13 Re:Scalable Vector Graphics In Mozilla!

by SomeSmartAss

Wednesday June 9th, 1999 8:13 PM

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SVG doesn't reqiure a plug-in, it's effectively an extention of XML...

I'm *pretty* sure Flash does.