First Survey Test

Saturday June 5th, 1999

In preparation for our upcoming vote in the Mozilla Throbber Animation contest, we are testing our new survey code. The survey (and the contest vote) are open to mozillaZine members only, to limit "ballot-box stuffing".

In our first test survey, we ask you to rate some options for our talkback forums. Please be sure to choose a rating for all of the options - your submission won't be accepted otherwise. You will notice some incongruity in the labeling of the choices - this code was initially designed as a survey for "wishes" for Mozilla, and we haven't finished the move to a generic survey yet. Changes will be made before the next test. We will be performing another test of this code in a few days.

Important Note: I neglected to mention it, but the ranking is on a scale from 1 to 20, not 1 to 10. Please take note of this when you vote.

To get started, click here. To view the results, click here. Send any bugs to this address.

Update: The survey is back online - the code to disable multiple postings had been commented out! Sheesh. That made the results of the survey invalid. So, I've recreated the survey, and you can vote again, and hopefully this time it'll work.

#4 Re:First Survey Test

by Kovu <>

Saturday June 5th, 1999 3:58 PM

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With threads you can see like 20 responses on your screen at a time, and only spend time d/ling those you haven't read before or want to re-read.

Most messages in threaded conversations contain a subject only and then "n/t" to indicate the subject is the reply and that there is "no text" in the message except "n/t". This encourages short replies, and if you want to rant you can do it and people only need listen to it if they want to by clicking on it. 100 replies always takes the same amount of time to d/l because only the subject is on the page.

Here is a really good thread structure: <…oard/general/board1.shtml>

the main site is here <> you would have to click on Say Something and then General Discussion to get there (frames site)

Once the message list gets a certain length begin a new page and then put hyperlinks up top to link to the older ones. Mozillazine could have one of these for each topic, we would only have to listen to replies when we wanted to once with an option to re-read at will.

Also, when you are constantly having to scroll to the bottom of a really long page, and the Home link is always at the top, that is a little incovenient--a newest first to oldest last structure would keep the latest message at the most accessible place of the screen, right under the topic, which everyone is thus reminded of constantly, encouraging people to stay on it. :) Also, the home link is right there, and so are the links to older pages of responses, which can still be responded to.

Look at that page link and see how quickly you a) get to the newest messages and B) scroll through 100 of them choosing which, if any, to look at. The admin remarks are obvious by their bright colors, which helps pick those out. Here, tell me how often you can see more than four responses at any one time? And you have to skip over all the old ones to get to the new ones.

I would combine this insert message window with the subject window at the top, tighten them up quite a bit, make them as tiny as possible (maybe just make this window a horizontal toolbar at the bottom of that window above), include the links to old pages, and then have the messages oldest last, minimizing the necessity for scrolling over old messages.

Just my $.20