MozillaZine

MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

Monday May 24th, 1999

Steve Morrison, creator of the XULTool, has joined MozillaZine (as some of you may already know). He has been hard at work getting the XULTool working on our site, and we're pleased to announce that the ChromeZone is now online.

Now, with a simple form, you can change the look and feel of Mozilla, and create your own themes! You can also choose from some ready-made themes we have available. You can also send your own themes to ChromeZone for addition to our site.

So, fire up apprunner and head over to the chromeZone.

We got a lot of great entries for our little "name our new chrome area" contest, but in our final vote, "ChromeZone" came out on top. A number of people submitted the name "ChromeZone" or a variation for our contest. Clayton Scott was the first, however, and his prize is a stuffed Mozilla doll from Netscape. I know we didn't promise any prizes for the contest, but we wanted to give something to the winner.

Thanks to everyone for you contributions, and if you have any suggestions for the chromeZone, let us know.


#48 Re:MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

by Kovu <Kovu401@netscape.net>

Tuesday May 25th, 1999 9:08 PM

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I never said to attack Microsoft. Like I said, they may well be right, the trial may well be useless. People just won't have a reason to use IE, or Windows soon. Microsoft isn't going anywhere, they've extended into so many markets that's impossible and Windows will probably always be around, perhaps at a 33% share, as should be. With some competition they'll be forced to start innovating again, and Amiga will force them. IBM was in Microsoft's position once, they were sued, they backed off, they're still alive today and viable, and I'm sure it will be that way in the future. Microsoft has backed down in the last two years, they've admitted they backed off of forcing OEMs to add MSN to the Start menu because of Justice, and the behavior change alone might be all the market needs.

I don't say anything that is untrue, but I don't feel, and I don't think even Microsoft feels, that Windows will dominate to such a ridiculous degree much longer.

And I agree that the browser war is over. With the source code to the finest browsing engine, coupled with the single most customizeable web application ever, adding buttons for everything and anything.

Mozilla is the beginning, the base of future Internet based applications, and it's going to be a huge market. People here are saying that customizeable UIs don't matter to 30 million people, an understatement at that. The sad fact is that the few of the people who use browsers, really only those who create web pages or browsers and not many people, to be frank -- an insignificant amount of the browsing population right now has any clue what your standards mean. Most people SEE only. They'll see applications that they can run from a palm-top that has room for Netscape (Gecko) because the e-mail application doesn't need to run from a hard drive, for instance, it can run from the Web or over it from your computer's hard drive at home.

So you're talking a fast, customizable browser down to the buttons that can be specific to that site. And sorry, standards are NOT a mass-market selling point. You tell me how many people you saw outside of work today you think know what the hell 100% CSS1 and 80 % CSS2 means? But that Kid chrome alone would sell that browser to someone, and Star Wars, Tubbie Toy idiot things and the whole bit THAT will be, and is, Mozilla's selling point to everybody. It's all FREE, and a huge chunk of the hard work is almost done, and then it will be easy, almost effortless, to port it to anything (and particularly NGAmiga ;)

So now you have a fast, standards compliant browser -- one that can view pages designed for IE -- and one that anybody can (and will) customize the hell out of. That alone, not to mention standards, sells the hell out of itself -- and it's free for anyone to add to applications (like HotDog may do <http://home.netscape.com/…ef/pr/newsrelease762.html> and a browser can suddenly become a corporate proprietary feature of every corporation with a Net prescence, no matter how small -- and yet they're all on the same, open, free standard and can all read each other perfectly, and therefore perpetuate one another.

Oh yeah and it can read that buggy-ass IE5 implementation, too. Let's see how long that crap takes to fade, since rewriting pages will take half the time of fixing the buggy ones now.

AOL was smart enough to let Mozilla alone because that was the only way it could and will take over. How long do you think until Microsoft makes a <http://www.microsoft.com> home theme? A year? Six months? They can have a huge MSN button, the whole bit, all that just as fast as they can fill in a few URLs at chromezone. That'll be 2000's IE, watch, or a copy of Mozilla. As it should be. Netscape and Microsoft nearly killed what was left of Mosaic (and its original free stature) fighting with proprietary code structures, and Netscape won by giving it up and throwing it back to the masses where Mosaic started. It WILL take over because programmers don't have to hack it to death to add one button they just hop over to the XUL tool and fill in blanks.

I only mention the other things like Amiga to fill in around the edges of my point. The point is competition drives innovation and with Gecko, finally, that is what we'll see.