MozillaZine

MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

Monday May 24th, 1999

Steve Morrison, creator of the XULTool, has joined MozillaZine (as some of you may already know). He has been hard at work getting the XULTool working on our site, and we're pleased to announce that the ChromeZone is now online.

Now, with a simple form, you can change the look and feel of Mozilla, and create your own themes! You can also choose from some ready-made themes we have available. You can also send your own themes to ChromeZone for addition to our site.

So, fire up apprunner and head over to the chromeZone.

We got a lot of great entries for our little "name our new chrome area" contest, but in our final vote, "ChromeZone" came out on top. A number of people submitted the name "ChromeZone" or a variation for our contest. Clayton Scott was the first, however, and his prize is a stuffed Mozilla doll from Netscape. I know we didn't promise any prizes for the contest, but we wanted to give something to the winner.

Thanks to everyone for you contributions, and if you have any suggestions for the chromeZone, let us know.


#357 Re:MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

by SomeSmartAss

Tuesday June 8th, 1999 11:33 AM

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Bruce,

first off, I chose my moniker for a reason. It suits me very well. (it also allows me a bit of leeway at times)

This news thread has reached 350+ comments, almost all of which can be attributed to you're argument against XUL as a good user interface. In all that time (type), you still have yet to explain why, let alone prove this, yet you steadfastly hold your ground, without budging. If you want to chalk it up to us being too dense, or pig-headed to understand then fine, go right ahead. But to be fair, you've been just as pig-headed. You say you want to help Mozilla, yet all you do is say that XUL won't fly. At first it was performance issues, but you very quickly (somewhere in the 50 post range) turned it into a "look & feel" issue and, despight many of us trying to figure out what you were talking about, you kept beating the same "native UI is better" drum.

The point of my last posting was not a discreditation. It was a comment on the tactics you have used to argue your point in this forum. This is not to say these are calculated in any regard, you probably don't even know you are doing it half the time, since its more than likely second nature. It is simply the way you discuss things. That said, you never-the-less are using classic debating tactics. You're quite good at it too.

my specific comments on your tactics;

"Circular arguments" I am not the only one who has noticed the repetition, and circularity of your arguments. Many, the MozZine Admins in particular, have been quite frustrated by this.

"Pokes at an other person's knowledge/ability/status to discredit their position" You are unquestionably a very inteligent, and knowledgable person. You do, however, take a quite Elitist (and occasionally age-ist) stance, especially when we "plebs" ask you to explain your possition. These little coments are very effective tools in undermining credibility.

"quickly retracted unfounded (or "misread") retorts." Hey, we all make mistakes... intentional or not though, you seem to do this a lot.

I for one hope you come through with the Booth offer, and I hope Mr. Hyatt accompanies you. I think that is the only way to solve this argument.

Oh, and as for me disapearing... sorry for having interests outside of this news thread.

BTW. I have no hidden agenda. I don't realy have an agenda at all. Just opinions.