MozillaZine

MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

Monday May 24th, 1999

Steve Morrison, creator of the XULTool, has joined MozillaZine (as some of you may already know). He has been hard at work getting the XULTool working on our site, and we're pleased to announce that the ChromeZone is now online.

Now, with a simple form, you can change the look and feel of Mozilla, and create your own themes! You can also choose from some ready-made themes we have available. You can also send your own themes to ChromeZone for addition to our site.

So, fire up apprunner and head over to the chromeZone.

We got a lot of great entries for our little "name our new chrome area" contest, but in our final vote, "ChromeZone" came out on top. A number of people submitted the name "ChromeZone" or a variation for our contest. Clayton Scott was the first, however, and his prize is a stuffed Mozilla doll from Netscape. I know we didn't promise any prizes for the contest, but we wanted to give something to the winner.

Thanks to everyone for you contributions, and if you have any suggestions for the chromeZone, let us know.


#345 Re:MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

by arielb

Tuesday June 8th, 1999 8:25 AM

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hmm I wasn't angry at all and I'm disappointed that you feel this way. Maybe it's because I wrote too much at such a crazy time of day? Maybe it's because I get such a tiny window to type in. I'll try again.

From the standpoint of look and feel, a native UI on Windows comes from Microsoft. Therefore, the open file dialogs are native controls.

The explorer bar example was to refute the idea that "IE UI is a bit plain... but it's fast, solid, smooth, and consistent"

The links clearly prove that there is a healthy skins community in the windows world. I agree that the websites may appear to be a little "geeky". I just wanted to show:

1) that the skins phenomenon isn't limited to linux. 2) the wide variety of "skins" available for icq plus. Most of these skin designers are pretty average people. Like I said before, 800+ skins for ICQ, over a thousand skins for kaleidoscope (not freeware btw) and AOL did buy winamp. (I guess it depends on the definition of the word "mainstream"-what's mainstream for the internet isn't mainstream for the rest of the world. ICQ and winamp are mainstream apps for the internet)

I never said that you felt Opera was a failure. You wrote that it's a killer browser that was held back by its UI. Quite a few people love it for its UI-they love the MDI stuff. Furthermore, Opera's UI has nothing to do with skins or a run-time UI...

The other post isn't an argument for skins but it was to point out the danger of using native Windows standard controls. If you copy Netscape 4.x's UI to the letter then you will copy the bad along with the good.

Anyway I'm not trying to attack you. All I want is to get a precise sense of "good look and feel". It's difficult but the more examples you can give the easier it is for other people to fix these problems.