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MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

Monday May 24th, 1999

Steve Morrison, creator of the XULTool, has joined MozillaZine (as some of you may already know). He has been hard at work getting the XULTool working on our site, and we're pleased to announce that the ChromeZone is now online.

Now, with a simple form, you can change the look and feel of Mozilla, and create your own themes! You can also choose from some ready-made themes we have available. You can also send your own themes to ChromeZone for addition to our site.

So, fire up apprunner and head over to the chromeZone.

We got a lot of great entries for our little "name our new chrome area" contest, but in our final vote, "ChromeZone" came out on top. A number of people submitted the name "ChromeZone" or a variation for our contest. Clayton Scott was the first, however, and his prize is a stuffed Mozilla doll from Netscape. I know we didn't promise any prizes for the contest, but we wanted to give something to the winner.

Thanks to everyone for you contributions, and if you have any suggestions for the chromeZone, let us know.


#340 Re:MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

by arielb

Tuesday June 8th, 1999 5:38 AM

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sigh...you still didn't give any specific example besides performance. That's what drove this forum nuts-your argument almost sounds like "I'm right no matter what you say and that's it".

Now I can show you what I mean by a specific exaple-the explorer bars in IE4. Oh sure the press raved about them and the MS Arsekissers loved them. Too bad MS forgot one basic tiny little thing: scrollbars! Hello? You're telling me I should click on the down arrow to move one level at a time or that I can only expand one category compared with Netscape's bookmark app which uses expandable trees-and with (!) scrollbars!

You also argued that very few windows apps skinnable. That's not true-winamp is so hot that AOL bought the company. ICQ via ICQ Plus <http://icqplus.da.ru/> is skinnable and there are tons of skins for it (800+ at least). Check out <http://customize.org/> <http://skinz.org/> for windows or check out <http://kaleidoscope.net/> for the mac. This is mainstream stuff but the whole idea is still in its infancy until we have a standard "skinning" language that's easy to use. That's what XUL is supposed to be for. Right now, every app has its own way of doing things which makes things harder for skin developers.

You mentioned Neoplanet. First of all it's just a wrapper for IE. They have nothing to do with MS so they have to take the indirect route. The other problem is that there's no way to create a skin (at least to my knowledge) without all this other stuff (advertising banners,etc) that get in the way.

I agree that Opera's UI isn't so good. On the hand there are many people that swear by it. They've proven that a tiny company from Norway can produce a browser from scratch and still make money even when the competition is free. But this has nothing to do with skins. You see, Netscape does hire UI engineers...

Are you sure about this last suggestion? It's very easy to "blow away" passersbys from CA with a really cool UI. My test would be to give the browser to an ordinary family in say oklahoma for a _week_-not 5 seconds on their feet and see which style they prefer. My bets on the XUL style because it will be refined and redesigned over and over until it's simple and easy to use. We can also draw upon an entire army of gfx designers. All you have is the old Netscape 4.x look and feel.