MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

Monday May 24th, 1999

Steve Morrison, creator of the XULTool, has joined MozillaZine (as some of you may already know). He has been hard at work getting the XULTool working on our site, and we're pleased to announce that the ChromeZone is now online.

Now, with a simple form, you can change the look and feel of Mozilla, and create your own themes! You can also choose from some ready-made themes we have available. You can also send your own themes to ChromeZone for addition to our site.

So, fire up apprunner and head over to the chromeZone.

We got a lot of great entries for our little "name our new chrome area" contest, but in our final vote, "ChromeZone" came out on top. A number of people submitted the name "ChromeZone" or a variation for our contest. Clayton Scott was the first, however, and his prize is a stuffed Mozilla doll from Netscape. I know we didn't promise any prizes for the contest, but we wanted to give something to the winner.

Thanks to everyone for you contributions, and if you have any suggestions for the chromeZone, let us know.

#263 Re:MozillaZine's ChromeZone Now Open!

by Dave Hyatt <>

Tuesday June 1st, 1999 2:36 AM

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What deficiencies are you referring to?

Look at our 4.x Windows product. It doesn't use built-in Windows controls for either the toolbars, the toolbar buttons, or the tree widget. It does use native menus.

Now look at SeaMonkey. It uses XUL-based toolbars, buttons and trees that can be made to look and feel like the 4.x UI. We are still using native menus even with XUL, so there's no difference there.

I just don't understand what you're driving at. We can rebuild the 4.x UI and (once speed issues are resolved) we can mimic it with XUL.

Note that we can even get native system colors and fonts using CSS2.

If you're claiming that because we're not completely using Win32 controls that people won't accept 5.0, then the obvious simple counter is the current released version of Netscape itself.

Look at NS3 and NS4. They didn't use the standard Windows controls for the toolbars or trees, and they were accepted by millions of users.

Let me give you another example: AOL 4.0. It has custom toolbars, a custom bookmarks system, etc. etc. etc. Is it accepted? Again, yes, by millions of users.

There are plenty of other apps that have their own home-grown UI and that are accepted by Windows users (Winamp, Neoplanet and ICQ come to mind).

Cite some specific concerns and make your argument constructive. You might find that we're addressing some of your concerns in XUL, or we might find that there's something we could do to improve the user experience.