The XSL Challenge

Friday May 21st, 1999

C. David Tallman has news of an interesting article at In it, Michael Leventhal of CITEC (the group creating DocZilla) takes off the gloves and challenges XSL to best XML/CSS/DOM in a competition of functionality/usability in the web application space. Interestingly, Mozilla plays an important role in the contest. From

"Anything XSL can do in the Web environment, I can do better using technologies supported by current W3C Recommendations. Of course, what is 'meaningful' in the Web environment is open to a variety of interpretations. Therefore, the subject of the challenge should be one that the XSL camp and I agree is meaningful. I am also ready to make this bet a little bit more than an academic exercise. If I lose, I will pledge that I, and my crack mozilla development team, will assist in implementing XSL in the mozilla open source project. If my opponents lose they will agree to desist from XSL advocacy, vote against an XSL Recommendation if they are members of the W3C, and will join me in calling for full, flawless, and unequivocal vendor support of CSS1 and CSS2, DOM Level 1, and XML 1.0 as the very first and top priority of the web community."

#19 Re:The XSL Challenge

by Heikki Toivonen <>

Tuesday May 25th, 1999 12:30 AM

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Michael did not say that CSS does not need to be improved. CSS should be IMPLEMENTED properly before embarking on quests for the Holy Grail. As it stands now, the world has been chasing the Holy Grail and has forgotten that we could do everything the magical thing promises to do today with existing specs.

We still have no 100% CSS implementation in a *released* product. Of course we all know that that will change when the first browser utilizing Mozilla source ships...