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Updated MozillaZine Chrome

Saturday May 8th, 1999

We have updated the MozillaZine chrome to work with M5, and hopefully beyond. It now includes a customized sidebar, and because the flash panels are not yet working, they were left out of this version. You must be connected to the Internet to use this version also.

It is located here and must be downloaded and renamed to navigator.xul, replace the navigator.xul in the res/samples/ directory with it. If you have questions or comments, just hit the talkback button and talk to us!

Also, Steve is hard at work at getting our new chrome area up and working. We'll let you know as soon as it's ready to go.


#1 Re: Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by blov.

Saturday May 8th, 1999 4:21 PM

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The new chrome is very impressive. I especially like the integrated personal toolbar and application icons. I think a more conventional color scheme, at least as an option, would totally awesome.

#2 Re: Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by blov.

Saturday May 8th, 1999 4:28 PM

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Oh yeah, since I see you are providing a new xul.css, you should add the declaration

iframe {border:0;}

this gets rid of the ugly black borders and extra space around the scrollbars.

#3 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by blov.

Saturday May 8th, 1999 4:35 PM

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Another thing:

the javascript in navigator.xul is no longer in the same file. It is located in navigator.js.

<html:script language="javascript" src="navigator.js"> </html:script>

#4 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by zontar

Saturday May 8th, 1999 4:58 PM

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Mmmm... looks pretty cool, but it does need some work.

1. Having to be online isn't very good for offline testing, and having to connect to another resource while trying to load pages is a big hassle for those of us on dialups (snicker if you want, but not ALL of us have T3's, ya know).

2. Don't close the toolbars because you can't reopen them without shutting down and restarting Mozilla.

3. For some strange reason, while using the new chrome, a lot of images won't load.

These things being said, kudos are in order for the author(s). I LOVE the throbber, and just as soon as I can figure out how, I'm going to download those images and use them in place of the blue one, which (sorry!) I think is kinda lame.

I'm going back to the default chrome for the time being, but I'm eagerly looking forward to getting a *standalone* (i.e., not connection-dependent) version of this. (Hint, hint!)

Thanks -- everyone is doing a great job, and I appreciate it!

#5 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Saturday May 8th, 1999 4:58 PM

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Quick question on the iframe {border:0;} thing. Where in xul.css does this go? Thanks a lot for the suggestions!

Jason mozAdmin2

#6 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Saturday May 8th, 1999 5:06 PM

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OK, figured out the iframe thing, thanks for the tips.

zontar: right now, the default chrome is changing daily, which means I have to update it on a daily basis also, so that it works in the nightly builds as well. This also keeps you from having to replace 20-30 files each time you want to use it. If you want the throbber, it is at <http://www.mozillazine.org/toolbar/anim.gif> for the 'throbbing' one and at <http://www.mozillazine.org/toolbar/anims00.gif> for the static one. I will work on a stand-alone version as soon as the changes slow down some in the nightly builds, and put together a zip that will let you keep your old files intact.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Jason, MozAdmin2

#7 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by pete collins <pcollins@ocsny.com>

Saturday May 8th, 1999 5:13 PM

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If you are using mozilla right now just click on this link to view the mozilla zine skin

<http://204.107.76.15/mozillazine/>

pete

#8 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by pete collins <pcollins@ocsny.com>

Saturday May 8th, 1999 5:22 PM

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"and just as soon as I can figure out how, I'm going to download those images and use them in place of the blue one,"

they are in your cache

pete

#9 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by pete collins <pcollins@ocsny.com>

Saturday May 8th, 1999 6:26 PM

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I have started some documentation for XUL:

<http://204.107.76.15/DOCS/>

anyone who would like to contribute please do.

pete

#10 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by arielb

Saturday May 8th, 1999 7:38 PM

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heh I did something funny. Instead of downloading and renaming and all that stuff just to see the chrome, I decided to load the xul url in my location bar. voila! browser in my browser (without menus). Then I clicked on pete's link and bam! my entire browser changed in front of my eyes! really cool

#11 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by arielb

Sunday May 9th, 1999 3:59 AM

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ok so I was tricked. :) what happened was i got a completely new browser window positioned exactly on top of the previous one.

#12 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Caustic <jdub@student.usyd.edu.au>

Sunday May 9th, 1999 7:41 AM

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Anyone willing to throw some screenshots at us? I'd love to see it on lotsa platforms!

#13 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by simeonhackingxul

Sunday May 9th, 1999 8:30 AM

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#14 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Bix <marsha_c@denison.edu>

Sunday May 9th, 1999 10:33 AM

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Here's a Win98 -shudder- screenshot <http://www.denison.edu/~marsha_c/chrome9x.jpg>

#15 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by zontar

Sunday May 9th, 1999 9:32 PM

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kerz,

Already found the throbber stuff after poking through the XUL and CSS files, but thanks. I transplanted them into the proper M5 subdirectory so that now it's my default. I never thought to check my cache (DUH! ;-).

I won't really have time over the next week or so to download the nightly builds, I was just wanting a standalone skin to use with M5, which is proving to be remarkably fast and stable.

BTW, for those of you using Windows, a friend of mine took the (new) throbber and turned it into a Win icon file for use as a desktop or taskbar short cut. You can download it here: <http://members.rotfl.com/…kTechSoftware/mozilla.zip> -- it's in both 16X16 and 32X32 formats (thanks to Joshua Ducharme of Builder Buzz).

pete,

Thanks for posting the XUL docs -- I look forward to having time to dig into them after the coming week is over.

#16 Re: Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Monday May 10th, 1999 11:59 AM

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OK, updated the mz2.navigator.xul so that menu items that don't work are disabled. New docs are up over at mozilla.org that are proving to be quite helpful, check them out here - <http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/xptoolkit/> . This is work in progress, so keep checking back. I am also working on a static version that does not require an internet connection.

Jason Kersey - mozAdmin 2

#17 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by arielb

Monday May 10th, 1999 1:47 PM

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Speaking about menus...I wonder if you can do this: you know how in NS 4.5 when you click on Bookmarks, you get a menu? So why not scrap the menu bar and replace it with a menu toolbar? That way you'll be able to have the grippy thing, move it around, change background colors etc

#18 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Disappointed

Monday May 10th, 1999 1:50 PM

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Well, I tried out the navigator.xul

I sure as hell hope that isn't going to be the default look and feel.

#19 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Henrik <Lynggaard@netscape.net>

Monday May 10th, 1999 2:33 PM

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Could we please have a steady link to the xul file. the only link i can find is in this article

#20 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Bradley Robinson <brobinson@mail.gcnet.net>

Monday May 10th, 1999 4:09 PM

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I think I'll make an IE skin for the final release of Mozilla! I know, that was a bad joke.... Actually IE5's interface isn't bad. I like how it blends in with the rest of Win98 (Yes, I use Win98) I also use IE5 and OE5.... May god have mercy on my soul....

#21 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by arielb

Monday May 10th, 1999 6:50 PM

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hmm IE5 and Win98 are ugly. yechhh Then again, I don't like the look of macos, most xwindow themes, amigaOS, BeOS and the new look of mozilla either. Give me something like nextstep anytime

#22 Re:Updated MozillaZine Chrome

by Bix <marsha_c@denison.edu>

Monday May 10th, 1999 7:49 PM

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I kinda dig the Look and feel of Mozilla. I thought NS4.5 was a little too... I dunno, soft. Maybe it was the pastells. Anyway, I just wanted to cast my positive vote for the current look of 5. Very clean