Bill Joy of Sun Spreads Little Joy

Thursday May 6th, 1999

Wishiknew writes, "In a 1 1/2 hour lecture to a University of Washington's computer science class, Chief Scientist Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems Inc. criticized Netscape Communications 'Mozilla' effort for it's inability to 'take off', despite being an open source project."

And he managed to plug Jini and Java quite a bit as well, I see. I wish there was a transcript or audio file of the event.

#11 Re: Bill Joy of Sun Spreads Little Joy

by Adam Lock <>

Friday May 7th, 1999 3:02 AM

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For the past year Mozilla has been broken so badly with such a large codebase that it's little wonder that few volunteers have come on board. The code is frankly scary, for someone who doesn't know COM/XPCOM. I am one of the few external developers at present.

Things are picking up though and this is because Mozilla has moved from broken to semi-working. I'm even using it now.

This is always how things happen on an opensource project;- first a handful of developers spend an age developing something genuinely useful to a semi-working state; then the volunteers start to appear, turning from a trickle to a flood as the product moves from alpha to GA quality.

Also lets not forget XUL. Now that Mozilla is shipped with most of the UI expressed in JavaScript and XML it means that people can develop new and wonderful things for Mozilla without having to download or build the source.