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Firefox Pre-Preview Release Available for Testing

Saturday September 11th, 2004

Asa Dotzler writes "We took one more important change into the builds last night, moving from a blacklist to a whitelist for external protocol handlers, so today's builds are the new candidate 1.0PR builds. If all goes well with these builds, they'll become the official Firefox 1.0 Preview Release builds on Tuesday morning. Please help us test these bits and if you find any major regressions, please file bugs and nominate those as PR blockers with the bug flag "blocking-aviary1.0PR?" so that the Aviary team will see.

Download the 0.10 (1.0PR) candidate builds now: Windows installer Linux installer Mac disk image (Other formats can be found here.)

Note that this is not the final 1.0 Preview Release. That will happen on Tuesday if all goes well with the testing of these candidate builds. We appreciate any and all help testing the candidates and strongly encourage you to report any problems. Only you can prevent buggy releases ;-)"


#1 Problems for me

by selah1

Saturday September 11th, 2004 10:21 PM

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When run, it auto rolls up to a small bar about 2 cm in length on the upper lh corner of screen. When I expand it the screen is blank.....

had to rollback to 0.9.3

#16 Re: Problems for me

by dorsan

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:31 AM

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I had to make a fresh profile to get past that kind of problem in the past. The new version does work.

#2 Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by robdogg

Saturday September 11th, 2004 10:55 PM

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but does it really have to ship with such an ugly theme? Has anyone at mozilla.org actually asked themselves that?

#4 Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by logan

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:29 PM

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What's wrong with it?

#5 Re: Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by rotemburo

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:46 PM

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When trying to get another theme, I get:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /opt/update/core/config.php on line 60

Fatal error: MySQL Error 1040: Too many connections in /opt/update/core/config.php on line 60

#7 Re: Re: Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by logan

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:48 PM

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doh, try again later

#9 Re: Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by rotemburo

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:52 PM

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When trying to get another theme, I get:

Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /opt/update/core/config.php on line 60

Fatal error: MySQL Error 1040: Too many connections in /opt/update/core/config.php on line 60

#10 Re: Re: Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by logan

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:06 AM

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you can say that again! ;)

#90 Re: Sorry to beat a dead horse...

by joschi

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:35 PM

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IMHO the new firefox theme is *so* much cleaner and more professional the the qute them... i'm very glad they switched.

#3 FireFox ver 1.0

by BDComputers

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:09 PM

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I installed the new FireFox and all is working fine. I am a new user and will keep you updated on how things are going. I already like it better than the win exployer junk....lol. Keep up the good work.

BD

#6 Firefox 1.0 PR

by sos149sign

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:48 PM

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I'm really new to "posting" and "forums" so forgive me if this message is going in the wrong place....

I'm trying out the 1.0 pre preview from 9-11 and for the most part it seems to be running pretty solid for me.

As far as things I'm not doin' too well with...

I am not having much success getting themes working. I can't find the old Mozilla feature of opening up links in a new tab in the background. (In Mozilla you just press CTRL while hitting link) I also liked being able to CTRL-ENTER when typing in addresses in Mozilla and have it bring them up in a new tab. In Firefox if I do that it tries to add www/com to the address which is not something I'm attempting to do.

Are these things I'm just doing wrong or are they being removed permanently? They were something I loved that got me to switch from IE to Mozilla originally.

#8 Re: Firefox 1.0 PR

by logan

Saturday September 11th, 2004 11:50 PM

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While I don't have any answers, you may want to try asking this in the real forums (guest posting allowed) - <http://forums.mozillazine.org/>

#11 Re: Re: Firefox 1.0 PR

by sos149sign

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:11 AM

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Thanks. Sorry to put it in the wrong place.

#35 Re: Re: Re: Firefox 1.0 PR

by logan

Sunday September 12th, 2004 10:44 AM

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Well, I don't know that this is the wrong place, but you'll probably get more of a response in the regular forums.

#12 Re: Firefox 1.0 PR

by WalterK

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:31 AM

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Ctrl+Click works for me. You can also use middle-click to open links in new tab (Works in bookmarks, Home button, Go menu, etc. too). To open typed in address in a new tab, Firefox uses Alt+Enter.

#17 Re: Firefox 1.0 PR

by praseodymium

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:38 AM

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The "Open tabs in the background" is called "Select new tabs opened from links" which you should _uncheck_ to get tabs opened in the background.

#13 Plugin Finder Service quirks

by WalterK

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:47 AM

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There are a few minor issues with the new Plugin Finder Service (PFS).

1. PFS window doesn't remember its screen position after first use.

2. One can open multiple PFS windows by repeatedly clicking on the missing plugin area. IMHO, there should be only one (modal ?) window.

3. After Flash plugin is found, its auto installation fails for now. Can only do manual install.

#14 Re: Plugin Finder Service quirks

by super_gerd

Sunday September 12th, 2004 1:11 AM

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Had the same problems with the Flash plugin. Did it manually.

#43 Re: Plugin Finder Service quirks

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:51 PM

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WalterK, thanks for the plugin finder information. I believe all of these are on file in Bugzilla with the possible exception of persisting window location and position which I don't recall seeing on the 1.0 blocker list but which is probably somewhere in bugzilla. I'll look into that and report back here. Thanks again for the investigation and information.

--Asa

Oh, and the reson flash doesn't install is that we don't actually have a flash package at update.mozilla.org :-)

#15 Startup problem as User w/oadministrator privilege

by vahdat

Sunday September 12th, 2004 1:28 AM

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I used to have the same problem with Firefox 0.9x using Windows XP SP1 and SP2:

When firefox is not in memory and I start it up, the page is loaded but not rendered. Only a white page is displayed. Also the bookmark toolbar is not displayed. Menu don't open and the search box drops down under the back-button instead of the search box.

When Using 0.9x this was a minor nuisance, because when I opened another window, everything was fine. Unfortunately with this preview a second window does not open.

#29 profile dust creep

by vahdat

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:58 AM

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O.K. after deleting the extensions, searchplugins chrome directory and the XUL.mlf and reinstalling it's working fine.

#18 Typo in 'information bar'

by bariki

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:44 AM

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When a software installation is blocked, and the 'information bar' is displayed telling you about it, it says to click on 'Edit Options' to cahnge your security settings. Shouldn't that be Tools > Options? ^)^

#44 Re: Typo in 'information bar'

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:56 PM

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"Edit Options" is a button label, not quite the same thing as instructions. Tools -> Options would take you to the Options window which would require that you then select the Web Features panel and click the Allowed Sites button.

--Asa

#19 <eeps>

by bariki

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:45 AM

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OMG, I am so blind! I didn't see the huge button saying 'Edit Options' on the right hand side of the bar.

D'oh. :p

#20 Final Preview

by testboy

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:46 AM

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this is not the final preview :p anyone else finds that funny? thats nearly like final beta ...

#36 Re: Final Preview

by logan

Sunday September 12th, 2004 10:45 AM

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Yeah, release candidate of a preview release. ;)

#21 Change the default download location on Linux!

by johann_p

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:50 AM

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Please, change the setting for the default donwload on Linux! The current default - save to desktop - is just idiotic. I hate it even on Windows, but on Linux it is totally wrong. Change it back to "ask where to store".

#26 Re: Change the default download location on Linux!

by bamm <bamm@gabriana.com>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:55 AM

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I agree with this. On some internet cafe's, the desktop is hidden. I actually wondered why Firefox started downloading without asking me where to put it, and then I couldn't find it. I then discovered that the default is to put it in the desktop. From then on, this is always the first setting I change whenever I install Firefox.

I suggest, "My Documents" for Windows and "~" for Linux.

#38 Re: Re: Change the default download location on Li

by yaka

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:12 PM

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I agree with you, for me too it's the first thing i change...

"My Documents" for Win and ~ for Unix/Linux would be much better !

#42 Re: Re: Re: Change the default download location o

by sos149sign

Sunday September 12th, 2004 2:04 PM

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I feel the same way. Having it with a default place and not even asking you where you want it is dangerous. The first time you download it should ask you where you want it, and you should have to check a box telling it if you want it to "default" somewhere or ask you each time.

Also, a taskbar button for the download manager would be great so you don't have to go to the TOOLS directory.... does anyone know where i can find that?

#27 Re: Change the default download location on Linux!

by bamm <bamm@gabriana.com>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:55 AM

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I agree with this. On some internet cafe's, the desktop is hidden. I actually wondered why Firefox started downloading without asking me where to put it, and then I couldn't find it. I then discovered that the default is to put it in the desktop. From then on, this is always the first setting I change whenever I install Firefox.

I suggest, "My Documents" for Windows and "~" for Linux.

#75 Re: Re: Change the default download location on Li

by jaw79 <jaw79@columbia.edu>

Monday September 13th, 2004 10:44 AM

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Haven't you heard? Firefox isn't for linux. In fact, the main lead on the project doesn't even know how to use tar (<http://weblogs.mozillazin…/ben/archives/006427.html>).

#113 Re: Re: Re: Change the default download location o

by STED

Thursday September 16th, 2004 2:36 AM

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Hehe, what is File Roller anyway? I havn't had probs unpacking tars in any of the filemanagers I've used under Linux.

In any case, this is as valid under Windows as under Linux. It's highly irritating that FF comes with a predetermined default for where to save files instead of a "ask first time" behaviour. It's perfectly OK that the default location to choose is set to desktop, but one doesn't even know where things get saved until you chase around in the Options settings.

#22 Uninstall previous version

by jaxel

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:13 AM

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Hi! it seems that everything looks more clear, feels so near... Firefox 1.0 (wow!)

Well, I have just installed the new version 1.0PR (on win XP) and on the installation it checked the installed themes and extensions, and told me to upgrade some of them (this feature it's great !!)... but I had installed the 0.93 version of Firefox on my system, and in the Add & remove Programs window I had both versions of Firefox (0.93 and 1.0PR)... so I suggets to to display a message at the installer: "another version of Firefox has been found on your system... would you like to upgrade it??" or something like that (or maybe to ask the user to install it on another directory... why not??).

Another suggestion: when I install it, in the last window (Install complete window), the Launch Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR message background is not white... it has a different background (I think it's the background of another window... not completely sure)... so please check this, it makes difficult to read the message.

Well... another suggestion is to add links in the Firefox homepage to the Firefox translations to another languages (I use the Spanish version of firefox... and in the Nave - the Spanish translation team- homepage you can download the Spanish version of Firefox)... so, why not to have these versions listed in the main Firefox homepage??? It would make new Firefox users more comfortable using a localized version of the browser.

Another feature that I missed from Firefox was the "Show Java Console".. but I found one extension for that... I think this feature should be installed by default... ;)

Well... that's all, thank you to all the people who works in this project and makes it better and better every day :)

#32 Re: Uninstall previous version

by Smigit

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:14 AM

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"but I had installed the 0.93 version of Firefox on my system, and in the Add & remove Programs window I had both versions of Firefox (0.93 and 1.0PR)... so I suggets to to display a message at the installer: "another version of Firefox has been found on your system... would you like to upgrade it??""

Your supposed to manually remove it beforehand. I dont agree with this but will assume its got to do with it being pre release software. But until it changes, uninstall previos versions before updating

"when I install it, in the last window (Install complete window), the Launch Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR message background is not white... it has a different background (I think it's the background of another window... not completely sure)... so please check this, it makes difficult to read the message."

thats a known bug that they still havent fixed.

"Another feature that I missed from Firefox was the "Show Java Console".. but I found one extension for that... I think this feature should be installed by default... ;)"

unsure but im guessing its just sorta to reduce bloat further. Most users would never even touch this window, i know i naver have. As you mentioned you can get the extension to activate it (and there could even be a config setting there to enable it)

#95 Java Console

by kensys <ken@kensystem.com>

Monday September 13th, 2004 2:47 PM

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IMO, The Java consolde should be restored to the menu; placed in the same 'Web Development' sectiontht Mozilla has - this is the ideal catch-all for all the esoteric web-development stuff that the avg user doesnt care about... so why theres a DOM inspector and javascipt console now shown directly under 'Tools', I cant guess. My vore goes for restoring the "Web Dev" menu; its scope is only likely to grow given all the Extensions that alreday exists under that topic.

#120 Re: Re: Uninstall previous version

by dsim

Wednesday December 29th, 2004 6:40 PM

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Hi, I have the 0.93 release still in the add and remove windowa, and I could not uninstall it. Any tips that can help??

#45 Re: Uninstall previous version

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:04 PM

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Jaxel, thanks for the great feedback. The first part about uninstalling I believe is being tracked as <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247884> The background problem with the final panel of the installer is <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225281> On the primary Firefox product page, <http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/> has a link titled "Other Systems and Languages". The Java Console menu item was intentionally removed.

Thanks again for the feedback.

--Asa

#23 Find as you type

by Sunspire

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:14 AM

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I really dislike the changes made to typeahead, or "find as you type".

First, it seems to be disabled by default. I think this is a mistake, it's a feature easily as cool as tabs and is now unlikely to be discovered by new users. Second, there doesn't seem to be any way to get the old behavior. When you enable find as you type in the preferences, it searches through all text instead of only the links. How is this then different from hitting control-f and performing a normal search? Typeahead was amazing because it made browsing with the keyboard so incredibly fast, selecting any visible link was as easy as typing just a few characters and hitting enter. Just my opinion.

#34 Re: Find as you type

by nentuaby

Sunday September 12th, 2004 10:13 AM

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Hit the ' (apostrophe) button and the find toolbar will come up in links-only mode. Hit the / (forward slash) button and it will come up in all-text mode. The search toolbar now finds as you type, rather than making you hit search, so really it's only a one key change and once you get used to it it's not only just as fast but offers a bit more functionality.

#41 Re: Find as you type

by vfwlkr

Sunday September 12th, 2004 1:13 PM

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> How is it different from hitting control+f and doing a normal search?

Find-as-you-type is exactly that, it finds-as-you-type (or incremental search). In most other applications, hitting control+f and doing a normal search does not let you incrementally add characters to your search pattern.

#110 Find as You Type

by lkisser

Tuesday September 14th, 2004 1:09 AM

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"First, it seems to be disabled by default. I think this is a mistake, it's a feature easily as cool as tabs and is now unlikely to be discovered by new users."

I second this.

#114 Re: Find as You Type

by STED

Thursday September 16th, 2004 3:15 AM

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I strongly disagree with your suggestion that find-as-you-type should be put back as default ON. I'm sure you would also agree if YOUR bank had a Java login app that often cause the FAYT-function to print your password in cleartext in the bottom bar of the browser instead of in ***-format in the passwordbox you had selected.

Ie consequences a) Default off - some people might never find it b) Default on - some people might have their bankaccounts cleaned out becuse someone saw their password in cleartext

It would be insane to choose b over a

#24 New window (Javascript window.open command)

by jaxel

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:39 AM

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I have just found another thing on Firefox 1.0PR, the window.open Javascript feature makes Firefox to show the location toolbar in the upper part of the window (although it's disabled in the window.open command)

Also noticed the ""new"" Find toolbar in the "View Page source" on Javascript source files... why not to use this toolbar in every source code?? It's great this toolbar (to see it just open a Javascript source file and press Ctrl+F and when you try to find something that is not included on the source code it will beep and say "phrase not found" hehehe I love this feature!!!)... just rediscovering Firefox ;)

#25 Adress Bar

by jeti

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:54 AM

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This is actually a feature. It was introduced so that a web page cannot pose as a dialog of the OS or browser.

#28 Re: Address Bar

by bamm <bamm@gabriana.com>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:58 AM

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Why shouldn't it? In a glossary with a popup definition it would look great if it could pose as a dialog. Besides, a dialog in any program is nothing but a window too.

#33 Re: Re: Address Bar

by WillyWonka

Sunday September 12th, 2004 6:47 AM

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It's to stop this from happening:

<http://it.slashdot.org/ar…4&tid=128&tid=172>

#85 Re: Address Bar

by pete27

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:35 AM

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Why not having a 1" blinking red border around each window to prevent spoofing? It's rediculous. There are a lot of developers out there who will run furious if their popups have an unwanted toolbar. And the bad guys will use JS and Layers to continue spoofing. Great. Really Great!

#94 Re: Re: Address Bar

by ccapeng

Monday September 13th, 2004 2:03 PM

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This is a very good point. Proper indicator will be much helpful for normal users. For normal users, they can't tell what is spoofing from the URL. By the way, the pop up window could be small. The addressbar is really hurt the layout.

#46 Re: New window (Javascript window.open command)

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:07 PM

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Jaxel, the find toolbar missing from View Source is <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250279> The forced location bar is, as others have said, an anti-spoofing measure. Thanks again for the feedback.

-Asa

#30 extensions and themes

by grasshof

Sunday September 12th, 2004 4:05 AM

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I had nice extensions and themes working for 0.93. Now they are not working with RC1. Since I don't think that much has changed, why this nuissance of version checking and how could one fix it?

#31 extensions and themes

by grasshof

Sunday September 12th, 2004 4:19 AM

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I had nice extensions and themes working for 0.93. Now they are not working with RC1. Since I don't think that much has changed, why this nuissance of version checking and how could one fix it?

#37 extension mechanism DID change

by johann_p

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:08 PM

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as far as I know the extension mechanism did change considerably between 0.9.3 and what is planned for 1.0.

#39 Re: extension mechanism DID change

by dipa

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:42 PM

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It didn't change afaik (just some bugs were fixed). Anyway, extensions should be checked by their authors and re-shipped (update mechanism provides a mean to update them without re-installing the whole extension but I don't think it works yet). Even if a certain extension is not updated, one could modify it (assuming he/she is sure there are no compatibility issues). Simply open the xpi file as zip and modify "em:maxVersion>xxx" line inside install.rdf. This way, the extension will become "compatible" with the new FF version. Beware that extensions might severely broke user's profile so always keep a copy of the latter.

#47 Re: extensions and themes

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:11 PM

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Grasshof, the extension authors are resposible for providing compatibility information to update.mozilla.org. Firefox will continue to check with update.mozilla.org to see if the extension author has either provided a new version or signaled that the current version is compatible. Once either of those happens, the extension will be enabled. You can manually check by going to Tools -> Extensions and selecting the specific extension (or deselect all extensions to check for all of them) then hit the "Update" button. Hopefully the extension authors who have tested to see that their extensions are indeed compatible with the PR release will notify update.mozilla.org and your extension will be re-enabled. If they're not compatible, then hopefully the authors will post new versions to update.mozilla.org and you'll be able to automatically upgrade to the new version.

Thanks for the valuable feedback.

--Asa

#51 Re: Re: extensions and themes

by WalterK

Sunday September 12th, 2004 4:28 PM

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> You can manually check by going to Tools -> Extensions and selecting the specific extension (or deselect all extensions to check for all of them) then hit the "Update" button.

Thanks for "deselect all" pointer. I was trying to select multiple extensions to check for their updates (that obviously didn't work). Would it be more intuitive to have multiple selection enabled as well? Also, multiple selections would allow to check for updates for any combination of extensions at once.

#52 Re: Re: Re: extensions and themes

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:02 PM

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WalterK, can you see if we have a bug on file for that, and if not, file one?

--Asa

#67 Re: Re: Re: Re: extensions and themes

by WalterK

Sunday September 12th, 2004 11:54 PM

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I didn't find an existing bug, so I filed bug 259057

#99 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: extensions and themes

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday September 13th, 2004 3:51 PM

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Thanks Walter, I've added a comment seeking Ben's opinion and ultimately his decision.

--Asa

#60 Re: Re: extensions and themes

by stylo

Sunday September 12th, 2004 8:37 PM

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Does it extensions update work right yet? I have a branch nightly from a couple days ago. IEView is disabled, says no update available, but going to the extensions page shows it actually is available for my build (even has same number). Also shows UriID disabled, but it still works!

Should I file bugs or this is known/incomplete?

#40 Ebay Works!

by emskorman

Sunday September 12th, 2004 12:59 PM

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You can go back on Ebay from an individual auction and automatically get back to your place in the auction list. Very nice work indeed. Thanks.

#48 Re: Ebay Works!

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:12 PM

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emskorman, this is good to hear. What was the previous behavior? Was it the case that before it would not scroll to the correcy screen position or that it wouldn't go back at all?

--Asa

#64 Re: Re: Ebay Works!

by Simplex

Sunday September 12th, 2004 9:05 PM

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Asa, that is bug 217120 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217120> and it was indeed fixed between 0.9.3 and 1.0PR.

#100 Re: Re: Re: Ebay Works!

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday September 13th, 2004 3:51 PM

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Thanks, Simplex. That eases my mind some.

--Asa

#49 empty group & where is basic styles?

by Grauw

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:24 PM

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Two things:

1. In the installer, if I tell it to not create a Programs folder group, it will create an empty group.

2. 'Basic Style' is gone! I don't understand... For clarity, Basic Style != No Style. If there are named styles present (with title=), basic style is still a valid option... Basic style is (or should be) the style which contains the basic and common styles for a page. If I have a technical document (which I do), where I want to indicate negative logic with an overline, I have a <span class="neg"> in it. The style which defines the overline is part of my basic style sheet (and essential to the /meaning/ of the document). No style is bad, it is a 'hack' (well...) for sites which don't have a good basic stylesheet :). If anyone could point me to the bug where this was removed... maybe I could see the reason behind it.

~Grauw

#53 Re: empty group & where is basic styles?

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:07 PM

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Hey Grauw, thanks for the feedback. I think your first issue is covered by <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245392> and I'm pretty sure that your second issue is available from the View -> Page Style menu. We no longer show the "statusbar" icon unless a page offers alternate styles. It didn't really belong on the status bar since it wasn't announcing anything about the page most of the time and it's not really a browser or page status.

--Asa

#88 Re: Re: empty group & where is basic styles?

by Grauw

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:02 PM

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Asa: no, that's the problem... I understand that it's not in the style icon's menu anymore, but I'm afraid that they accidentally took it out of the View / Page Style menu as well.

~Grauw

#101 Re: Re: Re: empty group & where is basic styles?

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Monday September 13th, 2004 3:57 PM

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Gruaw, it's not missing in my build. Do you have some extension installed that would change your menu? I see "No Style" which makes the page look like the web from 1998 (removes syles and presentational HTML) and the various alternate styles offered by the site and if no alaternate styles are offered by the site, then a "Badic Style".

--Asa

#50 Extensions window missing scrollbar if too narrow

by itsayellow

Sunday September 12th, 2004 3:50 PM

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The Downloads, Extensions, and Themes windows all seem to have the following problem for me: If they are resized to be too narrow, past some point both the vertical scrollbar and the lower-right-corner grippy disappear.

It was even worse because my Extensions window had no scrollbar, until I realized I just needed to resize the window to find it.

Anyone else notice this? Can anyone confirm?

#54 Re: Extensions window missing scrollbar if too nar

by asa <asa@mozilla.org>

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:08 PM

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itsayellow, thanks for the report. I too have seen these problems. I believe we have a bug on file for this. I'll check and if not then I'll file one.

--Asa

#55 download needs Ctrl+N

by buff

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:24 PM

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download manager still needs Ctrl+N to open new window if last window closed. Mozilla does this correct. Bug was files eons ago.

#56 new bug in download manager

by buff

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:30 PM

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Just noticed a bug in Linux GTK builds of firefox. Right clicking on an unselected item in download manager comes up with an empty context menu. You need to left click first then right click on an item to get context menu.

#57 Installer icons use 100% CPU in explorer.exe

by afx114

Sunday September 12th, 2004 5:46 PM

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No software should be released with corrupt installer icons, especially an installer which causes a 100% CPU condition. I still have this problem with the current builds. Can anyone else verify and add to this bug? <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249246>

#58 Email Buttons Do Not Work

by CHUCK

Sunday September 12th, 2004 7:06 PM

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I installed the PRrc1.0 today on WinXP(SP-2). Works fine except the email selections under the Tools Menu do not cause my default email client to respond (even though it still indicates how many new messages there are). I seem to recall that under 0.9.3 it worked. Also, how do I know to which email account the "new messages" numbers refers?

#59 Popup on close tab not blocked the first time

by kipp

Sunday September 12th, 2004 8:20 PM

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I just found that I'm getting a popup when I close a tab for the first time. Subsequent closing of tabs with the same URL are blocked or are not requested.

Could someone confirm this to see if this is a problem for others?

Start Firefox: Ensure Popup blocking is enabled and <http://my.finance.lycos.com/> is not in the allowed list Load <http://my.finance.lycos.com/> Create a new tab (Ctrl-T) Set the <http://my.finance.lycos.com/> tab as the active tab Close the tab containing <http://my.finance.lycos.com/>

I'm seeing a popup displayed for: <http://news.lycos.com/news/headlines.asp?etc>...

If I do this again without restarting the browser the popup is not displayed (I don't think it was requested because I do not get the "blocked popup" icon in the status bar.)

#63 Re: Popup on close tab not blocked the first time

by kipp

Sunday September 12th, 2004 8:58 PM

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I've characterized this a bit more...

It appears this popup comes from a body onUnLoad event that calls a window.open. I've created a simple test page that only has <body onUnLoad="window.open('<http://www.google.com>')"> (hopefully that html wasn't mangled) and the popup is displayed every time.

#65 Re: Popup on close tab not blocked the first time

by Racer

Sunday September 12th, 2004 9:34 PM

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I was able to recreate this popup on FireFox .10 PR RC1 (20040910)!!

#92 Re: Re: Popup on close tab not blocked the first t

by kipp

Monday September 13th, 2004 1:10 PM

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Thanks.

It appears bug 259117 was created this morning to track this.

#61 Well...

by Ziggy

Sunday September 12th, 2004 8:47 PM

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...I just installed it after being on nightlies, so nothing much is different, but I can say the following: 1) there should be a pref to disable the bar at the top of popups if there isn't one already 2) Firefox Update should be a menuitem under Tools. Tools > Update Firefox, for example. 3) Firefox Update should display the possible udpates using a chevron or something (the two v's on top of eachother, ala XP's explorer bar thing while browsing). Not an option button. Even as experienced as I am, it took me a few seconds to realize that the option button toggled the display and not picked one or the other (I'm still running Firefox Update, so if that's what it does, excuse me ^_^) 4) Firefox Update's cancel button should work. You can close, why not make Cancel work? 5) Always show tab bar needed some tweaking to get to work (I had to disable, restart, enable). 6) You should display the progress of Firefox Update using numbers. Watching the bar get bigger on dialup doesn't really ease my mind any. 7) Tab bar is displayed in popups (I'm currently CC:'ed to the spoof bug, so I know that you already know that)

I haven't tried it, but is there any way to get the Information Bar re-enabled if you say "don't display this anymore"?

Aside from those things, it (as Blake Ross said) kicks ass.

#115 Re: Well...

by STED

Thursday September 16th, 2004 4:37 AM

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> 1) there should be a pref to disable the bar at the top of popups

You mean a "please allow people to rob my bankaccount" checkbox? It's a seciurity feature and allowing people to turn it off is probably a very bad idea. Perhaps you could ask for an extension for people that want it gone no matter what and realise the implications of doing so.

#62 and...

by Ziggy

Sunday September 12th, 2004 8:48 PM

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I *really* don't know why it didn't add linefeeds...

#66 Password Manager did not correct work.

by koyra

Sunday September 12th, 2004 9:55 PM

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I use Mozilla 1.7.2 and Mozilla FireFox 0.9.3. I was found bug. When I was change password MS domain controller (NT LM authentication) Mozilla can not memory new password (entered from dialog window).

#68 is the automatic updates mechanism enabled

by dipa

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:24 AM

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This morning, <https://update.mozilla.org/extensions> isn't working on Firefox 20040912. Even before that, I never had a *single* succesful automatic extension update.

So my question is the same as stylo's : is the automatic updates mechanism enabled ? I was under the impression that it would be enabled just before the official 1.0RC release.

#72 finally, it works :-)

by dipa

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:46 AM

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The connection problem wasn't related to FF. After fixing it, I was able to update extensions for the first time since the new Extension Manager. I did the trick Asa mentioned (unselect anything, the update). Now I am wondering whether it wasn't working because I was always trying to update individual extensions.

Great work although I would prefer to have an "Update All" button too. Most everyday users won't know the unselect trick (otoh, most users won't use extensions). However, I know that one more button would add clutter to the EM so I'm not sure about the best solution to this minor usability problem.

#81 Re: is the automatic updates mechanism enabled

by signe

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:13 AM

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Ok.. I'm confused. Where are the nightlies?

The -trunk nightlies are still branded as 0.9...

#69 download window 1.0pr

by ngunsl

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:40 AM

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When opening the download window from the tool menu, the icons such as clear all, launch and so on do not appear. Instead, there is a line: label="&cmd.options.label;" accesskey}&cmd.options.accesskey;"

#119 Re: download window 1.0pr

by tripnine

Saturday December 4th, 2004 9:40 PM

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?

#70 download window 1.0pr

by ngunsl

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:41 AM

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When opening the download window from the tool menu, the icons such as clear all, launch and so on do not appear. Instead, there is a line: label="&cmd.options.label;" accesskey}&cmd.options.accesskey;"

#77 Re: download window 1.0pr

by signe

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:03 AM

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You need to uninstall the Download extensions you have enabled. That is caused by one of the ones I was playing with yesterday.

#118 Re: Re: download window 1.0pr

by pyrophin

Monday October 11th, 2004 12:16 PM

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Im having the same problem, however.. the download manager i had installed on a previous version doesnt show up in the Extensions menuitem. Ive tried reinstalling Firefox, even cleaning out my registry beforehand and the error still comes back. Does anyone know how to take out the extension manually?

~Phin

#71 download window 1.0pr

by ngunsl

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:45 AM

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When opening the download window from the tool menu, the icons such as clear all, launch and so on do not appear. Instead, there is a line: label="&cmd.options.label;" accesskey}&cmd.options.accesskey;"

#73 Most crucial usability bugs

by johann_p

Monday September 13th, 2004 2:20 AM

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Out of my head, here are the usability bugs that I think are most crucial - and most embarrassing when not solved in 1.0:

Improve the dialog(messages) shown when a user starts a second instance of FF. Right now, the dialog does not tell that another instance is already running and simply shows the "pick profile" list - often with a single profile. Only when the user picks that profile will he see a message that it is in use.

If an URL is loaded in the background and there is a connection problem, the URL is not shown in the URL entry field and not in the history. Retrying is impossible and this often means that the URL is lost.

As stated above, the default setting for downloads should be "ask" not "Desktop", expecially not on Linux.

The "new tab" icon should be standard - it was idiotic to remove it and force users to install an extension for it.

Tabs should either be scrollable or wrap to a new line if there are too many to fit in a row - currently, tabs simply disappear and are unaccessible.

#74 Re: Most crucial usability bugs

by dipa

Monday September 13th, 2004 9:57 AM

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>If an URL is loaded in the background and there is a connection problem, the URL is not shown in the URL entry field and not in the history. >Retrying is impossible and this often means that the URL is lost.

This is impossible without fixing <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28586>. But fixing this "meta" bug assumes fixing a lot of related bugs which are totally off the 1.0 radar unless someone offers a patch (not an easy task, problems with history backend) :-(

> As stated above, the default setting for downloads should be "ask" not "Desktop", expecially not on Linux.

Agree. For Windows, there should be at least a pop-up message, for the first time a file save is done.

> The "new tab" icon should be standard - it was idiotic to remove it and force users to install an extension for it.

Don't unterstand this. There *was* a new icon on latest branch nightlies. Did they remove it ?

> Tabs should either be scrollable or wrap to a new line if there are too many to fit in a row - currently, tabs simply disappear and are unaccessible.

Not only disappear but the UI is horked at the rightmost side.

#98 Re: Re: Most crucial usability bugs

by mikemarco

Monday September 13th, 2004 3:33 PM

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If I understand the parent poster correctly, the lack of a "new tab" button refers to the lack of a new tab button on the tab bar itself (as in the Mozilla suite). It's possible to add a "new tab" button to the main toolbar, but it would be a lot more intuitive to add one to the tab bar itself. I really don't understand why this was removed--to "clean up" the interface? That doesn't really make sense; the tab bar is hidden by default anyway. Yes, I realize that you can press Ctrl+T (Cmd+T on Mac) or double-click an empty part of the tab bar, but neither of these are as obvious. But at the very least an extension exists, and hopefully the FF team will see the light eventually.

#107 Re: Re: Re: Most crucial usability bugs

by dipa

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:20 PM

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Wrt the New Tab icon, I misunderstood the original poster. No, there is no tab icon in recent branch nightlies. I partially agree with the removal. Too much clutter for diminishing returns, imo. There is a New Tab icon available for the Navigation Toolbar (see customize feature).

#76 toolbar in small windows

by firsty <sean@nine9pages.com>

Monday September 13th, 2004 10:58 AM

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(newish ff user, so pardon any ignorance)

problem just noticed upon testing 1.0 - opening small java (?) windows like the espn bottomline and my email notifier, the navigation toolbar is loaded (instead of showing like a popup). toggling that view off is an easy fix, but then the next main page i load also is missing that toolbar, so it's just more annoying than anything else. but these windows looked ok in 0.9, so i guess this counts as a regression.

also, my favorite theme (doodle), even tho it was updated on 9/12, doesnt load in 1.0 (downloads then disappears). but i guess thats an issue with the author?

#78 Re: toolbar in small windows

by mlefevre

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:06 AM

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The URL bar appearing in pop-ups is a deliberate change, so that it's harder for sites to create popup windows containing a fake URL bar and mislead people into thinking they are on a different site. This is discussed above - <http://www.mozillazine.or…back.html?article=5264#24> . The UI is still being discussed, so it may in future be made less annoying to get rid of it on windows that you trust and don't want it showing for.

Not sure about the theme thing - sounds like it may be an issue the author needs to fix, or it might be that your own profile has got messed up somehow.

#83 Re: toolbar in small windows

by pete27

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:30 AM

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It's one of the worst idea to show the whole url of a popup for security reasons. If it would show the domain, then we could talk about the sense or nonsense of this feature and if it's annoying or not. But the whole url simply is lousy!

#84 Re: toolbar in small windows

by pete27

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:31 AM

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It's one of the worst idea to show the whole url of a popup for security reasons. If it would show the domain, then we could talk about the sense or nonsense of this feature and if it's annoying or not. But the whole url simply is lousy!

#93 Re: Re: toolbar in small windows

by signe

Monday September 13th, 2004 1:10 PM

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I disagree completely. It's helpful for me, both as a user and as a developer.

I just think it needs to be done a bit more cleanly.

#109 Re: Address Bar

by pete27

Tuesday September 14th, 2004 12:29 AM

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> It's helpful for me, both as a user and as a developer. As a developer you see your URL. Nice. You can get the info with view-info as well. The basic meaning of a popup is that it *does not* contain any additional information. That's why window.open has options like toolbar=yes or statusbar=yes.

#79 toolbar in small windows

by firsty <sean@nine9pages.com>

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:08 AM

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(newish ff user, so pardon any ignorance)

problem just noticed upon testing 1.0 - opening small java (?) windows like the espn bottomline and my email notifier, the navigation toolbar is loaded (instead of showing like a popup). toggling that view off is an easy fix, but then the next main page i load also is missing that toolbar, so it's just more annoying than anything else. but these windows looked ok in 0.9, so i guess this counts as a regression.

also, my favorite theme (doodle), even tho it was updated on 9/12, doesnt load in 1.0 (downloads then disappears). but i guess thats an issue with the author?

#80 Updating extensions

by sanderg

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:12 AM

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After installing over 0.9.3 on Windows (yes I know, but wanted to test if this installer build finally does it right), upon launch, FF kept checking/updating my extensions. I had to kill the process, manually remove the program directory, reinstall. Only then it worked (profile was unchanged).

#82 Replacing Mozilla?

by damian <daemonc@netscape.net>

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:14 AM

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I know I ask this with every major release, but is this the one that is going to become the new Mozilla browser?

Is that still even the plan? Or will I have to continue supporting the old Mozilla suite indefinitely?

#103 Re: Replacing Mozilla?

by nentuaby

Monday September 13th, 2004 6:10 PM

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That's not, exactly, the plan. The "Fox/Bird" family of products will continue to exist as discrete projects. Mozilla Suite will also continue to exist and recieve maintenance, but once the new generation of products are deemed well established and satisfactory (1.5? something like that) it will no longer recieve major development. In other words, there will not be a new suite. The old suite won't go away, but it will no longer be front-line.

#86 A few bugs still left to squish.

by lethargy

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:46 AM

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I have been using nightlies for about a week now and switched over to this build yesterday, I have already found six annoying bugs.

1.Doing an address bar I'm Feeling Lucky search will not display the sites URL, but instead the word you entered to get there, this is a known bug, <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254040> but one I hope is fixed before 1.0PR is released.

2.I selected "don't import anything" from the import manger that starts the first time you use firefox, and then it just died, the window disapeared and FF didn't load, I had to click on the shortcut again to get FF to start.

3.I then logged in as a limited user (Windows XP SP2) and tried opening FF, nothing happened, I kept trying but firefox wouldn't load until I restarted the computer. I did have Firefox listed in the task manager, and it came up with a "program not responding" or something like that window as I restarted.

4.The empty Mozilla Firefox Folder in the Start Menu, again, a known bug. <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245392>

5.It doesn't place quick launch icons in ALL users quick launch bar, only in the account it was installed in. It does, however, install the desktop icon on all accounts.

6.Lasty, it seems to randomly forget my home page, and reverts to the derfault, this may only happen after installing extensions, but I am not certain about that.

Other thatn those issues (which I think REALLY need to be fixed to make this look more complete) It's been working fine, I especially like the new FAYT toolbar, so I can do find next/previous and highlight, althougfh why FAYT is disabled by default is beyond my understanding.

#91 Re: A few bugs still left to squish.

by lethargy

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:53 PM

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To clarify, these issues also were present in the nighlies I have been testing, they didn't just appear in this build.

#87 Send Link

by bobbomo

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:51 AM

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Everything seems to work OK for me, but where did the "Send Link..." option go from the maildrop down icon. Its still under the File menu, but that was really the only reason to have the email icon on the toolbar.

Other than that, great work everyone!!!

#89 FAYT issue, and Basic Style again

by Grauw

Monday September 13th, 2004 12:09 PM

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I found a bug with Find As You Type... If I press ' to make it work, it won't work if the first character I press next is a vowel. This because on my keyboard (and many other non-English ones) typing ' + a is converted to Š (by software, not hardware, it is dependant on regional settings). Pressing ' + space solves this, but it's awkward. In effect, I'm just using / for FAYT now, but that one does a full text search instead of only on links.

Asa: I don't know if you noticed my reply to my earlier message... "Asa: no, that's the problem... I understand that it's not in the style icon's menu anymore, but I'm afraid that they accidentally took it out of the View / Page Style menu as well." (about Basic Style)

Anyways, great release. Much improvement since 0.9. 1.0 will be great ^_^.

~Grauw

#96 popup blocker notification bar woes

by aba

Monday September 13th, 2004 2:55 PM

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I stumbled over a page that tried to open a popup. Firefox 1.0PR informed me with a nice message in a nice bar that this popup was blocked and allowed me to change the settings or to "Show %url%". I don't trust the site enough to allow popups always but I was curious to see this particular popup - and discovered that I got a second entry in the list that said "Show %url%" (needless to say that this list was growing when I retried)

I'm not sure about the intentions but I understood "Show xxx" in a way that I will get to see the offending popup so I might consider to put this site in the whitelist.

It's the same with installation - I don't want to put every site into a whitelist - I would like to be informed that this site did try to install something and I want to be able to allow this just once without the need to allow the page (apart from the fact that it would be nice to have a "retry" option instead of "nah, this site isn't allowed to install something, try the link again" behaviour - it would be nice if it looks more like the popup dialogue (including the list) without the drawback that I actually have to chnage the settings before I retry it).

If this is not the right place for such comments, please inform me where to ask - thanks. aba

#97 About the icon, easy to fix ? Suggestion.

by RedLTeut

Monday September 13th, 2004 3:03 PM

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A few people said that the FireFox icon looks suboptimal.

By accident my computer switched to 256 colors, and I can see much better that it looks like a lizard. Even a hand is clearly visible with a contrasting border. Now either that is an old image selected for 16x16x16 mode, or it means that the firefox icon should, IMHO, IANAA, be made a bit more like the low-color version with stronger reds, yellows and a border/shadow for the hand.

Now I don't know why it has a lizard and is named firefox, but I like the lizard, it needs less resolution to be readable.

I hope there'll be default icon for the bookmark stuff, i just added a yellow exclamation mark to make my own icons for bookmark window that way.

#105 Re: About the icon, easy to fix ? Suggestion.

by nentuaby

Monday September 13th, 2004 9:31 PM

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Actually, you're mistaken, it's not a lizard, it's a stylized Firefox. "Firefox" is a colloquial nickname for the red panda, which if you're not familiar with them they look rather more like a raccoon/fox hybrid than than they do their black and white cousins.

This is the same image at a much larger size; (you can see the same thing in the help/about screen): <http://www.mozilla.org/pr…irefox/buttons/header.png>

Anyway, your actual concern- that it's not all that clear- is valid; to most users it just looks like a splotch of orange against a splotch of red. Unfortunately, this is essentially a "wontfix" issue. It's deemed by its creators and the staff to be distinct enough from other icons to clearly identify Firefox, even if you can't tell it's actually supposed to be such a critter.

#106 Re: About the icon, easy to fix ? Suggestion.

by nentuaby

Monday September 13th, 2004 9:33 PM

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Excuse me, like a splotch of orange against a splotch of *blue.*

#102 Tested on iMac

by Aboukalf

Monday September 13th, 2004 4:11 PM

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I downloaded Firefox 0.10 for my iMac with Mac OS X v10.1.5. It works fine, though a little slower than 0.9.3 and I hate the new skin. The old skin said "Hey I'm a special skin only avaible for the Mac version of Firefox!". This new one is basically a copy of the Windows theme, which says nothing. It also is now a lesser competitor to Safari; the before skin looked exactly like Safari's, a good thing for me since my OS X is too old for Safari. Now it's basically "Firefox for Windows" theme.

#104 OMG so many awesome changes

by kberk <kberk@bigfoot.com>

Monday September 13th, 2004 8:52 PM

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I have not tried a nightly really since .93, so I had no idea there would be anything except but fixes.

The new RSS feed stuff is AWESOME.

The new search I'm not sure about, I've only played with it for 60 seconds, but I'm willing to give it a spin. It seems cool in concept.

I do have one concern. I got really confused about a cookie manamgent setting in privacy. I almost lost my cool thinking the feature was removed. See the bug I filed <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259208>. It would be ineteresting to know if anyone else was confused or if this tired guy just needs some sleep.

#108 empty tab from closing tabs too quickly

by Mamoru <mamoru@gmail.com>

Monday September 13th, 2004 11:35 PM

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This has bothered me for awhile, even using 0.9x. Recently I have been using quite a few nightlies, but the latest are the 1.0PR (0.10) that appeared on Sept. 1 and now the Sept. 11 build.

If I have a few tabs open, and then I use the close button on the right side to close them quickly, somtimes it creates a new, empty tab and shifts focus to it. It it is almost like what happens when double-clicking an empty part of the tab bar to create a new tab, however it happens when clicking the close button. It is a little annoying because somtimes I am skimming through a set of images in tabs in order, but then it happens and jumps me to the end of the sequence.

Anyone else get this?

This is (currently) "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040911 Firefox/0.10" running on a 1.33GHz PowerBook with 768MB RAM running MacOS X 10.3.5 with all of the latest system patches.

#111 Extensions

by PC1

Tuesday September 14th, 2004 6:33 AM

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Many extensions including - "X" ( <http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#x> ) - All in one guestures - Add bookmark here are not compatable with the new version. I was able to download a newer version of All in one guestures from the author's website and installed it. Any suggestions for the other extensions? i.e. other than waiting!

#112 Lament for Find as you Type

by antroy

Wednesday September 15th, 2004 1:09 AM

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The new system has broken some very useful behaviour that I used to take for granted with Find as you Type.

1) The fact that you could simply start typing, and links would be found was great. Having to hit / or Ď slows things down considerably - in fact it is actually quicker to hit CTRL-F than find the / or Ď key, since the location of the F is hardwired into the brain of anyone who does a lot of typing. It would be great to have the option of starting a search as you type in the manner it was done previously.

2) The find does not work in the sidebar! This for me is a show stopper, as I use FireFox intensively as an API browser. I have links set to open the API table of contents in the sidebar. It used to be a great feature: open an API from a bookmark in the sidebar; type the name of the class you are looking for, hit enter and it is there in the main window to browse. The sidebar has become almost useless to me now :-(

Donít get me wrong - the new GUI for the Find is great - it should however maintain the features of Find as you Type.

#116 Pre-release install woes.

by crosshairs

Wednesday September 29th, 2004 7:04 PM

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I had firefox 0.93 installed. I downloaded the pre-release. I installed the new build into a subfolder of the older version. I renamed the older version and moved the newer version to the Program Files folder. The new version accepted all my old settings, themes and extensions. I uninstalled the older version and began to use the new version. I am using XP pro and I have not had one problem with this new build. It works flawlessly. I had only to replace my old Walnut theme (not compatible) with the new one. This pre-release is far better than the older build (not that there was anything wrong with the old) I don't program or understand language codes or anything like that. I had no problem with the install. Perhaps my ignorant method of install will help someone else.

#117 memory

by adler

Thursday September 30th, 2004 12:40 AM

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This is a great browser. The only problem for ne is the memory usage. Right now, I just reboot the computer, I have only one Firefox window (and 1 tab) and it is taking 34 MB of memory. Many time it goes up to 50 MB or more. I compared with Mozilla 1.73 and MS IE and these use less memory.