The Role of Mozilla Europe
Tuesday August 10th, 2004
Axel Hecht has written a weblog post explaining what exactly Mozilla Europe does. The non-profit Mozilla Europe group launched earlier this year.
#1 Still don't quite get it
Tuesday August 10th, 2004 11:33 PM
It seems to be to promote the Mozilla suite in Europe which is great, but why have its own web site and not just e.g. http://de.mozilla.org/products/firefox for the german version, and so on. Why wouldn't european members of the Mozilla foundation be able to promote products in europe just as well as a separate team? Or was there a need of another Mozilla "identity" for computer magazines -- Mozilla Europe?
Also, what's this all about -- www.mozilla.se? Oh, look there we have a Mozilla page for the swedish localization? If there's a european team in place, why don't they cooperate with them?
#2 Re: Still don't quite get it
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 12:44 AM
My understanding is that one of the most important reason is to get an officiel status as an organization, in order for example to receive money that can be tax deducted in Europe.
From Europe I cannot send money to USA and get it tax deducted. At least I don't think so.
#3 Re: Still don't quite get it
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 4:10 AM
(Mozilla Europe promotes all mozilla products not only the suite of course)
There are lots of good reasons why mozilla europe was created and is usefull, among them :
- there are very few (euphemism) European members in the mozilla Foundation while mozilla will probably be more successful in Europe than in the US IMO - there was no official organisation in Europe that companies and governmental administration could ask help to if they wanted to deploy a mozilla product, now they have somebody to talk to. - in the middle/long term mozilla europe could be able to hire full-time developpers, when Netscape was killed by AOL, European mozilla developpers got fired, most are still unemployed but keep on contributing to mozilla code, it won't last forever since they need to fill the fridge... - being officially registered, moz.eu can get computer science students looking for internships to work on mozilla - computer magazines can now contact Mozilla Europe people for interviews in French, Spanish, German, Slovak... and this in their timezone ! - being a European organisation with European members, they understand (and defend) European concerns about mozilla and have a better knowledge of the European situation and local mozilla communities. - moz.eu participates in developper conferences like FOSDEM, shows the product in universities, companies... - moz.eu have more resources than smaller hobbyist communities to promote mozilla (manpower, big server, close relationship with the mozilla foundation, contacts with the computer press and local communities...)
There are other, perhaps less visible reasons, such as trying to protect mozilla.org IP in Europe, relaying information from moz.org and helping localizers beign heard and understood of course ;)
#4 Re: Re: Still don't quite get it
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 4:17 AM
oops, problem with carriage returns in mozillazine apparently, sorry :/
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 4:41 AM
Thanks for both your answers -- it made things much more clear to me now, compared to that blog. :-)
#6 International face of Mozilla
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 6:28 AM
I think that is very good local pages as Mozilla Europe. In addition, some translations of the mozilla.org website pages could be a good thing too.
I like Debian project for this issues :
Mozilla Update  should be offered in various languages too, EMHO.
But the first problem (and is a great problem) is de Mozilla l10n system. I think that it should be based on gettext if is possible. This Cristopher Blizzard's article  is interesting. I agree with him.
 http://update.mozilla.org/  http://www.debian.org/international/  http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/html/2004/07/#200407151543
#7 Re: International face of Mozilla
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 12:39 PM
> Mozilla Update  should be offered in various languages too, EMHO.
That's bug 245948
Wednesday August 11th, 2004 1:19 PM
mozilla europe should sell t-shirts.. getting t-shirts imported from the us is way too expensie
#9 Re: t-shirt
Thursday August 12th, 2004 7:11 AM