That is a good question. The roadmap page <http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html> was updated a few days ago with this:

"The new, significant roadmap update hoped for early in 2004 has been postponed. See Brendan's roadmap blog for thoughts that may feed into it. An interim roadmap update focused on the "aviary 1.0" releases of Firefox 1.0 and Thunderbird 1.0, and the 1.8 milestone that will follow, is coming soon."

Doesn't say when it's been postponed to - presumably until after the 1.0 releases and the 1.8 milestone, which are due in the next couple of months.

It's not really THAT divided. Most of the stuff added to the Trunk is for the Suite and Firefox/Thunderbird. The suite is being phased out by the users more than anything I think. It will eventually fade off into the sunset. In the meantime, who cares?

The suite is important to enterprise/corporate users of Mozilla. Not that it can't eventually be replaced by Firefox/Thunderbird/etc.,, but if that is going to happen we need to know about it well in advance (six - twelve months) so we can plan appropriately.

BTW, Firefox and Thunderbird will be keeping their names; the decision was made that they would not become Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail because that would sacrifice the name recognition that they've developed during the development periods. They will still be replacing the suite at some point, just not renamed.

Also, there really isn't much of a "divided effort." There is a solid core of Mozilla code which recieves the great majority of the attention. Firefox, Thunderbird, and Seamonkey (the Suite's codename) are all built around that; their code consists only of features and interface unique to themselves. So anybody that's contributing to just one or the other is working on features exclusive to that one, and probably wouldn't be cotnributing at all if his pet project didn't exist.

I've tried several times to make the switch to the 'birds and each time I come back home to my beloved suite. I don't get all the hype. The suite feels more solid, never crashes, still has more features. The only advantage for Firefox is that the extension writers seem to have migrated en mass to Firefox, but I still haven't found a compelling Firefox-only extension. On the other hand, without Multizilla, Firefox feels like a toy (tab browser extensions is a joke).

I truly hope the suite lives long and prospers.

Typed that a bit too quickly :-) I of course meant: "0% possibility it will be released as Firefox 1.0 Final"

it is 0.9, as in major.minor version ... not as in decimal 0.90 ... and 10 is bigger than 9

Yes, but it wasn't 0.90, it was 0.9.0 - 0.10 is higher than 0.9.

It is not supposed to be a decimal number, it's a version number - integers separated with periods, not digits and a decimal point. Otherwise 0.9.1 wouldn't make a lot of sense, would it?

That may be confusing to some, but that scheme is only used internally - externally the release will be labelled "1.0 Preview Release".

Faster they get to 1.0 the better, then the numbers will be "readable" as decimals as well...

I'm inclined to agree. Someone is bound to think this is the first release. Is it possible that having v. 0.10 could break extensions/themes because they think it is 0.1 (Phoenix)?

What would be wrong with giving it 0.99 internally? Is it that substantially different from the rest of the 0.9x? It could still be called 1.0 Preview Release publically.

zero point ten is more than zero point nine, its the sensible progression.

0.9.2 doesn't make sense because that would signify a very minor upgrade to 0.9.1, ie one with only a couple of bugs fixed. 0.9.9 doesn't make sense because then there are then some versions missing, it is still being billed as a more minor upgrade than to 0.10 and it doesn't allow any other versions to be added (not that they should be at this stage, but look at Mozilla 1.0)

If you look at other software projects, you will see lots of them using integer.integer version numbers, eg MySQL 3.23, Apache 1.3.31

ive never had to install flash after upgrading Firefox (and bird), it simply worked. adding an exta 25% to the download size isnt justified because a couple of people dont get it out of the box, and its so simple to install flash that theres no reason for the team to distribute it. Im on a really slow connection and it takes well over 1 hour for me to download firefox in its current state, I would prefer a smaller distribution file not a larger. (actually id prefer it if the update run only updated changed files) . Also there may be legal reasons for flash not being included. But i believe its been said several times that FF wont ship with flash regardless.

Since Flash and Java are too big to put in the download. We should have reminders with the links on the default hompage. That will make it easier on the IE / InExperienced crowd.