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Mozilla Adds Undetectable document.all Support, Part of New Novell Linux Distribution?

Friday July 23rd, 2004

Jacob writes: "Mozilla builds starting tomorrow will now support an undetectable version of document.all. This will help with sites that blindly use document.all in DHTML scripts. The support should also show up in the next Firefox release. More information is available in the bug."

An important thing to remember is that this will not break existing scripts that check for document.all, it will only work in cases where the script assumes it is running in IE, and does not first check to be sure that document.all works. If document.all is checked for, Mozilla will continue to block its use and act as it always has.

Update: The Register is reporting that Novell will soon be coming out with a slimmed down version of SuSE Linux targeted at exterprise desktops. The interesting part of this story is that they will be shipping a browser that "supported IE6 extensions, making it possible to access IE-only websites." Time will tell if this new support for document.all is related to the Novell news.


#36 Supporting IE quirks

by dtobias <dan@tobias.name>

Saturday July 24th, 2004 2:48 PM

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At the rate Mozilla is adding support for quirks, misfeatures, proprietary junk, and so forth, from IE (and the forums, newsgroups, and Bugzilla continue to be full of people continuing a drumbeat in favor of further moves in that direction), if someday Mozilla actually does win the browser war and become the majority browser, it won't actually matter; Web authors around the world won't be using correct, standards-compliant code any more than they now are, as they continue to put out sloppy tag soup that depends on all the quirks of the current popular browsers, in which category Mozilla will then fall. And, if some future Mozilla version were actually to attempt to promote greater standards compliance by *removing* some of those quirks, everybody would blame the browser, not the badly coded sites, just like they do now; they'll tell their friends "Don't use Firefox 2.0 Beta... it's badly broken. It doesn't even show those neato blinking marquees in WhizzzBanggg.com correctly! Hopefully, they'll fix it by the final release... it's a shame, because Firefox used to be such a great browser!"