Mozilla Adds Undetectable document.all Support, Part of New Novell Linux Distribution?
Friday July 23rd, 2004
Jacob writes: "Mozilla builds starting tomorrow will now support an undetectable version of
An important thing to remember is that this will not break existing scripts that check for
Update: The Register is reporting that Novell will soon be coming out with a slimmed down version of SuSE Linux targeted at exterprise desktops. The interesting part of this story is that they will be shipping a browser that "supported IE6 extensions, making it possible to access IE-only websites." Time will tell if this new support for
#19 Re: Yellow bar it?
by willll <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Friday July 23rd, 2004 4:46 PM
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> Wouldn't it had been smarter to just display a small yellow bar, like it does the pup-up blocking in Fx, to say that this site uses document.all which is not a DOM supported method and that some feature will not work until the website is correctly updated?
This is the worst of both worlds: support an unstandard extension of the DOM and create more unfriendlyness towards normal users. Getting rid of unfriendness by supporting a few dynamic pages was the point of the change. Why on earth would a non-geek user care if a website used document.all without a standard alternative? They wouldn't. At all. Alerting them of it would be a waste of their time and make it seem like Firefox was a geek browser and not for them. It is a very different situation with pop-up blocking. If Firefox was a browser only for web developers, it would be a different story, but it isn't, and I'm sure this change was made to attract people who aren't web developers.
> It seems to go the wrong direction in giving a user a faulse sense of compliance.
A typical user has no sense of web standard compliance so it can't be decieved. If a web developer cares about compliance they will look at the JS console where we report this as a warning or error or something.