M4 Release Notes Up

Tuesday April 13th, 1999

Andrew Wooldridge has sent us news that the M4 release notes are now online.

#1 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by Intercessor

Tuesday April 13th, 1999 3:00 PM

When will m4 be ready for d/ling?

#2 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by Kovu

Tuesday April 13th, 1999 5:17 PM

THAT's a good question! With M3 the release notes came out days later, I believe. This time it seems to be the reverse.

#3 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by dg2

Tuesday April 13th, 1999 6:12 PM

Hmmm... no mention of Gecko's "CSS3" support, again.

#4 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by anonymous_x

Tuesday April 13th, 1999 6:31 PM

M4 will be released Thursday. (As said on moz.builds)

#5 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by Chris knoll

Wednesday April 14th, 1999 6:26 AM

I hope they take care of full CSS1 before putting effort towards CSS3 (or even CSS2 for that matter)!


#6 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by Kovu

Wednesday April 14th, 1999 10:56 AM

I don't think CSS3 is even being considered at this point. The CSS2 spec says it is not guaranteed to be at 100% (probably at least 80%) by beta release. They probably aren't even thinking of CSS3 yet. I agree that 100% CSS1 should be priority, since no browser yet has gone above 70 something percent compatibility yet.

#7 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by arielb

Wednesday April 14th, 1999 1:15 PM

what is css3?

#8 Re: CSS3

by dg2

Wednesday April 14th, 1999 3:11 PM

There is at least one CSS3 property in there - opacity. Of course, there isn't such a beast as CSS3 yet. Not even a mention in the W3C's Activity Statement on Style Sheets. I've been told this is a popular one for inclusion in CSS3, but I worry - are we seeing the beginning of another IE3 - stuffing up compatibility for future users of a Standardised CSS3?

#9 Re:M4 Release Notes Up

by Kovu

Wednesday April 14th, 1999 4:30 PM

That's true. They really shouldn't support CSS3 at all if not 100%, since I fully agree that 0% is better than 70%.

Still, if they are sure a standard will stay the same there is no point in not throwing it in if it's already done, I guess.

#10 Re:

by Inertia Creeps

Thursday April 15th, 1999 6:01 PM

I bet that's what the MS guys said with IE3, re: CSS1. How many browser builders does it take to change a light bulb? None, they just redefine the "standard" light to be darkness. I share dg2's concern. What happened to the standards based browser? Or even openness in what the browser is aiming for? CSS3 - where's that in the docs?