Mozilla Foundation and Opera Software Describe Joint Vision for Web Application Framework

Tuesday May 25th, 2004

The Mozilla Foundation and Opera Software have published a paper outlining their vision for Web applications. The paper, submitted in preparation for next week's W3C Workshop on Web Applications and Compound Documents, describes a device-independent Web application framework based on HTML and backwards-compatible with existing Web content. The two organisations are keen to get parts of this framework in place soon to prevent a single-vendor solution (see Microsoft's position paper) becoming dominant. Co-author Ian "Hixie" Hickson's provides more insight in a recent weblog post on the matter.

#15 Re: Re: Re: Re: KISS *is* the right way forward...

by bzbarsky

Wednesday May 26th, 2004 10:04 AM

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I don't see a conflict as to what constitutes an application. I DO see a conflict as to who should be able to use said applications.

SVG is fine as a vector graphics language. It should NOT be an application language. That is, there doesn't need to be functionality in SVG itself to do things like I/O, etc. That should be in a specification dedicated to creating an application platform. That way, the I/O functionality would be equally available to SVG, HTML, MathML, and most importantly to mixed documents, in a reasonable way.

Unfortunately, the SVG specification IS attempting to define a complete application platform (have you seen the SVG 1.2 drafts?), including redefining all aspects of web presentation (layout, the meaning of CSS, etc, etc). So it's not just "not easy to implement", but "impossible to realistically implement if you want to support HTML as well" as things stand.