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Shock as Microsoft Evangelist Robert Scoble Recommends Microsoft Technologies

Monday May 10th, 2004

Much has been made in recent days about Microsoft evangelist Robert Scoble and his comments about how Mozilla can take advantage of the new technologies introduced in Longhorn, the next major version of Windows. Scoble's thoughts on how Mozilla Firefox could be enhanced via features such as Avalon, Longhorn's new graphics layer, and WinFS, the enhanced file storage system, prompted InternetNews to conduct a follow-up interview, sparked a discussion at Slashdot and caused MozillaNews to quote almost enough to stretch the definition of fair use.

Which is interesting, as nothing Scoble said was particularly surprising. The fact that a Microsoft employee even mentioned Mozilla was a shock to some but it should be noted that Scoble, who was an established member of the weblogging community long before taking a job at Microsoft, was speaking for himself and not Redmond. Furthermore, Microsoft have recently started encouraging their employees to maintain weblogs, launching initiatives such as blogs.msdn.com and Channel 9. In addition, while some media outlets reported that Scoble was offering advice to Mozilla, in reality he simply was recommending technologies whose widespread adoption would benefit Microsoft. At its core, this is a simply case of a Microsoft evangelist evangelising Microsoft. Nothing particularly surprising about that.

So far, the reaction from the Mozilla camp has been cool. While some features like WinFS and Avalon may be embraced in time, any evaluation is unlikely to take place until much closer to Longhorn's release. Meanwhile, technologies such as XAML (which, to be fair, Scoble is not advocating Mozilla adopt), have been met with outright hostility, with leading Mozilla figures viewing the proprietary XML user interface language as a threat to the freedom and interoperability of the Web.


#5 Re: Please put down the kool-aid

by gzcao

Monday May 10th, 2004 8:44 PM

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>>>XAML is just a XML wrapper over object libraries making it (potentially) easy for newbies to design applications. <<<

Correct. However, the object model here is that of c#'s. It might make it easier for people who would otherwise write the apps in c#....have nothing to do with people who want to write their apps in standard web technologies and for a bounch of platforms. XUL might not be a standard yet, but it is not controlled by a company with such a bad reputation. And you can extend it using html, javascript, and even svg.

With XUL+XBL+XHTML+JS+SVG, I don't see what we will be terribly missing from avalon...if we can just get mozilla deployed more widely. Let's not get distracted. Let's focus on getting firefox the best platform on which people can build rich internet application TODAY.