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Shock as Microsoft Evangelist Robert Scoble Recommends Microsoft Technologies

Monday May 10th, 2004

Much has been made in recent days about Microsoft evangelist Robert Scoble and his comments about how Mozilla can take advantage of the new technologies introduced in Longhorn, the next major version of Windows. Scoble's thoughts on how Mozilla Firefox could be enhanced via features such as Avalon, Longhorn's new graphics layer, and WinFS, the enhanced file storage system, prompted InternetNews to conduct a follow-up interview, sparked a discussion at Slashdot and caused MozillaNews to quote almost enough to stretch the definition of fair use.

Which is interesting, as nothing Scoble said was particularly surprising. The fact that a Microsoft employee even mentioned Mozilla was a shock to some but it should be noted that Scoble, who was an established member of the weblogging community long before taking a job at Microsoft, was speaking for himself and not Redmond. Furthermore, Microsoft have recently started encouraging their employees to maintain weblogs, launching initiatives such as blogs.msdn.com and Channel 9. In addition, while some media outlets reported that Scoble was offering advice to Mozilla, in reality he simply was recommending technologies whose widespread adoption would benefit Microsoft. At its core, this is a simply case of a Microsoft evangelist evangelising Microsoft. Nothing particularly surprising about that.

So far, the reaction from the Mozilla camp has been cool. While some features like WinFS and Avalon may be embraced in time, any evaluation is unlikely to take place until much closer to Longhorn's release. Meanwhile, technologies such as XAML (which, to be fair, Scoble is not advocating Mozilla adopt), have been met with outright hostility, with leading Mozilla figures viewing the proprietary XML user interface language as a threat to the freedom and interoperability of the Web.


#36 Re: Re: Sorry, guys....I was getting out of hand

by Yacoubean

Wednesday May 12th, 2004 3:26 PM

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Thanks. So if I understand it right, the code for all platforms makes these API calls identically. In linux, GTK handles them (some gtk specific code inbetween the calls and the widget is required). The same thing happens in Windows, an API call -> windows specific code -> widget. Sound about right?

I can see some huge benefits to using WinFS. Personally, I hate dealing with the Mozilla history. Its anything but convenient to find that one page you just know you saw, but you can't remember much about the title and or URL. If mozilla leveraged WinFS (and open source databases on other platforms), it could be a user preference to store more than just the URL and title in the database. Then I could easily perform a query (with a gui of course, to support the non SQL crowd) and find that page I needed. Or, say you just did a bunch of shopping for your wife, but you need to hide it. You could do an advanced search (like in google) and quickly find delete all those pages. If the drivers are averse to using WinFS, it would be fairly easy to do this kind of thing with their own proprietary database written in code, or to incorporate a small chunk of an open source database.

I can think of a lot of other cool things that could be done, i.e. bookmark stuff, web search stuff, etc.