Shock as Microsoft Evangelist Robert Scoble Recommends Microsoft Technologies

Monday May 10th, 2004

Much has been made in recent days about Microsoft evangelist Robert Scoble and his comments about how Mozilla can take advantage of the new technologies introduced in Longhorn, the next major version of Windows. Scoble's thoughts on how Mozilla Firefox could be enhanced via features such as Avalon, Longhorn's new graphics layer, and WinFS, the enhanced file storage system, prompted InternetNews to conduct a follow-up interview, sparked a discussion at Slashdot and caused MozillaNews to quote almost enough to stretch the definition of fair use.

Which is interesting, as nothing Scoble said was particularly surprising. The fact that a Microsoft employee even mentioned Mozilla was a shock to some but it should be noted that Scoble, who was an established member of the weblogging community long before taking a job at Microsoft, was speaking for himself and not Redmond. Furthermore, Microsoft have recently started encouraging their employees to maintain weblogs, launching initiatives such as and Channel 9. In addition, while some media outlets reported that Scoble was offering advice to Mozilla, in reality he simply was recommending technologies whose widespread adoption would benefit Microsoft. At its core, this is a simply case of a Microsoft evangelist evangelising Microsoft. Nothing particularly surprising about that.

So far, the reaction from the Mozilla camp has been cool. While some features like WinFS and Avalon may be embraced in time, any evaluation is unlikely to take place until much closer to Longhorn's release. Meanwhile, technologies such as XAML (which, to be fair, Scoble is not advocating Mozilla adopt), have been met with outright hostility, with leading Mozilla figures viewing the proprietary XML user interface language as a threat to the freedom and interoperability of the Web.

#21 What is going on with MozillaZine?!

by Yacoubean

Tuesday May 11th, 2004 5:40 PM

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This article has really broken my camel's back, and perfectly illustrates why I have been unhappy with MozillaZine's reporting for the last year or two. Here are my beefs:

1. MozillaZine is 100% biased towards Mozilla. Yes, I realize the site is about Mozilla and its products, but I prefer uneditorialized reporting (otherwise known as unbiased). If one wishes to know what non-mozilla people think of an issue, you have to go read C|Net or slashdot (or, heaven forbid, am not saying that MozillaZine should not report with a favorable editorial slant towards MozillaZine, but the lack of opposing views is blinding (note the use of the term 'slant', not leaning so much that you may as well be laying down) .

2. MozillaZine misses a LOT of mozilla news. This interview with Mr. Scobel is ANCIENT news in the news world, and MozillaZine just barely decided to post something about it. And when they did post, so much of the article is saying "This is not news" that its insulting to the rest of the computing world. Are you just trying to cover up your lateness with lame excuses? Have you ever heard of Google News alerts? I was running a news alert with the term 'mozilla' for a few months, and I saw a lot of what you report days before you reported it, and I saw about 75% more than you EVER report!

I want to make 3 things clear. One, I am not a Microsoft appologist (I hate nearly all of what Microsoft stands for, and the fact that I am a Linux/Mozilla user is proof.) Two, I don't have a Mozilla news site of my own, so I am not merely trying to rant about how crappy MozillaZine is compared to my site. Three, I still look at MozillaZine often, because let's face it, this site is the only place to go for a large portion of the mozilla news out there compiled into one place. I just hope that one of the admins of this site reads my comments and tries to improve this service to the Mozilla community (or at least ask for help so that more hands on this site can hopefully make an improvement).