Full Article Attached Innovations from Athena Design and Mozilla

Monday April 5th, 1999

Several readers brought to our attention an interesting project being developed using the Mozilla code. Athena Design, located in San Francisco but with developers throughout the US, has developed an intriguing proof-of-concept for "Dynamic DOM Rewriting". What is DDR? Click "Full Article" below to read an interview we conducted with Athena Design's CTO, David Pollak.

If you feel that DDR is important, contribute to the conversation in the layout newsgroup. Read the article to find out more.

#24 To Basher

by SomeSmartAss <>

Friday April 9th, 1999 12:19 PM

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MS didn't build a better browser. the built a MS-centric, buggy, **partially** compliant browser. They added features and impimantations that no one asked for, or required, and got the stuff people wanted bass-ackwards. They initially FORCED web-designers who wanted to add the "GET IE Now" buttons to use IE proprietary tags. The dicked aroiund with Java to make it more "Windows Freindly" (should have gone the other way round, but that's a whole different rant). IE5 isn't much better. instead of getting the currently approved standerdisation down right, they added more non-approved, non-standard crap, made half-assed attempts at fixing the buggy implimentation that was already there; then started pointing fingers and getting all hot under the collar when people called them on it.

As For Netscape, you right, they screwed up on alot of stuff (the complete divergence in CSS/DHTML impementation from initial IE3 for one), but this isn't Netscape; it's Mozilla. This is attempting to fix the problem. IE5 fixed squat, it furthered the problem.

I'm not quite sure what Office2000 has to do with things, but lets keep in mind it is all that extras functionality that allows for fun little diversions like the Mellisa Macro virus to make our Windows experience oh so Fun (personally wasn't affects, don't use Outlook, or Word).

They've been adding features for features sake, not for consumer need.

Their inintial driving goal was to have a computer in every office and household. and have Misrosoft Software running on it.

Now they want ONLY Microsoft software running. They released NT as a server platform, even though it (STILL) has massive security holes. They keep trying to sell Access as an enterprise DB. When they found out that VBA Macros could make viruses, they did little to stop that*. They got into the browser war, not to make a better product, but to kill the lizard; plain and simple. And that, my friend, is why we hate them.

* re: Macro Virus Security; one checkbox, deep within the app preferences doesn't count. I want dialogs popping up telling me that Macros are editing files in the background, and e-mailing them tomy 50 best friends; and i want those dialog to let me stop it if I want. Yes that functionality might be handy, if I had a monthly, reader customizable, newsletter to mail out (which I don't); but I still want to know its happening.