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Monday April 5th, 1999

Several readers brought to our attention an interesting project being developed using the Mozilla code. Athena Design, located in San Francisco but with developers throughout the US, has developed an intriguing proof-of-concept for "Dynamic DOM Rewriting". What is DDR? Click "Full Article" below to read an interview we conducted with Athena Design's CTO, David Pollak.

If you feel that DDR is important, contribute to the conversation in the layout newsgroup. Read the article to find out more.

#21 Re:Innovations from Athena Design and Mozilla

by Tekhir

Thursday April 8th, 1999 8:37 PM

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I've admitted that MS does make a few good products. Add IE currently supports more than Netscape.

I was comparing the average installs for NS 4 and IE 4/5. If you want to go to the smallest possible size then the stand-alone of NS is less than < 10 MB too.

WordPerfect 9 (part of WordPerfect Office 2000) suppports tons more file formats than Office does. In WordPerfect 8 I can open up WordStar 1.0 documents and even Word 1.0 docs. When, I was using my friends computer and Office 95 it couldn't even read Word 1.0 docs correctly, it hashed up crap on the screen. WP is also adding support for XML in this release, it has supported HTML for a while.

NS4 has CSS, PICS, and PNG support and it came out before IE4.

You said Ie5 supports namespaces and it does, sort of. There was an article on I believe about the poor way it was implemented. MS co-authored the spec with the W3C yet they didn't support it, in fact it was said it was totally wrong.

As for code bases, everyone suffers from this. IE 5 has legacy code from all the previous IEs as does NS. Word is in the same boat as is Windows and MacOS. Developers don't have a lot of time before release dates to do a serious rewrite or write the code with foresight.

I think its not the " Not-invented here" thingie but Invented by Ms thingie. MS has lock out people before who followed MS lead. DR-Dos for example couldn't run Windows 3.x well. Betas for that Windows used to say DR-DOS may crash this system. NS and Marmbia(SP?) were going to support CDF, but MS changed CDF slightly so that neither company could do it without doing a major rewrite.