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Mozilla Foundation Holds Future Strategy Talks with GNOME Foundation

Monday April 26th, 2004

Slashdot is reporting that the Mozilla Foundation has held talks with the GNOME Foundation to discuss future collaboration. The minutes of the meeting, which took place via teleconference last Wednesday, reveal that the discussions covered the integration of Mozilla with GNOME, strategies to combat Microsoft Longhorn technologies (especially XAML), duplication of technology between the two projects and the default Linux browser. The meeting follows Brendan Eich's earlier comments about how the Mozilla project can move forward with GNOME. Exactly how closely the two projects will work together is still being debated. The Mozilla Foundation is keen to form an official alliance with GNOME, while founder of the Galeon and Epiphany GNOME browser projects Marco Pesenti Gritti is pushing for a full merger.


#17 Re: Please don't tie any Mozilla product to any deskto

by DPJ <davidpjames@yahoo.com>

Tuesday April 27th, 2004 10:55 AM

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"I think it's a really bad idea to integrate any mozilla (Fx, TB) too much into a desktop (gnome or kde). I for myself am already really bothered that Fx has the "Save/Cancel" buttons reversed while running in linux. I want it to behave the same way in windows and linux." Ya, and now we're flipped with respect to KDE too...

"Mozilla should stay really platform independent. I have no problem in Mozilla requiring gtk. But I would have a problem if mozilla would require and gnome libraries to run. There is nore than gnome, and with the huge steps that kde has made, I wonder if it's a good idea at all to base Mozilla on gtk..."

I agree - I'm at a loss to understand Mozilla's apparent fascination with GNOME and near disdain for anything QT/KDE (cue the toss of QT Mozilla). But on the other hand, there is an opportunity here for greater integration with both desktop environments if done correctly. Right now Mozilla looks more like a GTK app but it doesn't actually integrate at all well - the file picker is a GTK-style file picker but it's part of Mozilla, unlike in Windows where Mozilla uses the native filepicker. If Mozilla heads towards GNOME integration the code will have to be changed to allow for use of native GNOME tools, like the file picker. Well if that's done then the same can be done for KDE integration *at the same time* by way of qtgtk library developed by KDE: <http://developer.kde.org/…tutorials/qtgtk/main.html> Mozilla could then be compiled with some KDE support by those who wanted it, and distributions like Debian and Red Hat could issue 2 or 3 versions of Mozilla depending on the user's preferred desktop environment. And an RFE I filed for just that with Firefox: <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237288>