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Tuesday's BugDay Focuses on Tech Evangelism

Monday April 19th, 2004

Asa Dotzler and Bob Clary write: "This Tuesday, Asa Dotzler and Bob Clary invite you all to a BugDay focused on top site testing and tech evangelism bug triage! With the upcoming release of Mozilla 1.7 and Firefox 1.0, it is extremely important that we discover any outstanding top 100 website blocker issues while we still have time to get them fixed. For more information, see the Top 100 triage howto, and be sure to join us this Tuesday on #mozillazine for BugDay. BugDay is a weekly collaborative bug hunting and bug triage effort. We'll have experienced Mozillians on hand to help new folks get involved so don't miss this opportunity to help make Mozilla better!"


#1 800? Ambitious...

by Waldo_2

Monday April 19th, 2004 9:40 PM

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...but certainly doable. All the best, as I don't think I'll have time to join the fun.

#2 Cutting down on Evangelism bugs

by neilparks1

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 8:37 AM

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Numerous tech evangelism problems can be directly traced to Firefox's User Agent string. When we claim to be "5.0", can we really blame the web site designers for thinking that "5.0" is older than "6.2"?

We need a UA that clearly and unequivocally states, as our current UA does not, that FF >= Netscape 7.x .

#3 Re: Cutting down on Evangelism bugs

by mlefevre

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 8:44 AM

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Not quite sure I see the connection...

Mozilla and Firefox and Netscape all claim to be "Mozilla/5.0". Would saying "Firefox/8.0" as well really help? If they're looking for a Netscape version, they're probably looking for the word "Netscape". I would guess it would need to say "Mozilla/5.0 Netscape/7.0 Firefox/1.0" or something, which is a little crazy - it shouldn't be necessary for Firefox to claim to be every previous browser product available...

#4 Re: Cutting down on Evangelism bugs

by Grauw

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 9:58 AM

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If that is the only problem with a site, it can be fixed in no-time. The real problems are bad site designs with broken code etc.

~Grauw

#5 Re: Cutting down on Evangelism bugs

by rparle

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 5:07 PM

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Doesn't Internet Explorer still claim to be Mozilla 4.0?

#6 Re: Re: Cutting down on Evangelism bugs

by Waldo_2

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 8:25 PM

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From the rarely-used, much-patched IE6 on my computer: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

#8 Don't look for US Strings, loos for capabilities

by fedetxf

Wednesday April 21st, 2004 9:51 AM

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It's much more useful to test for the browser capabilities. if(document.all) // safe to use all collection if(docuent.getElementById) // safe to use getElementById if(document.something) // safe to use something

Easier and bulletproof.

#7 Thank You for all of your help!

by rdc

Tuesday April 20th, 2004 9:25 PM

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I would like to thank everyone who came to bugday today and helped out. Over 200 bugs were resolved and it could not have been accomplished without the active participation of so many members of the community.

A special thanks and congratulations to Asa for managing bug day, for bringing in so many enthusiastic volunteers and for triaging so many bugs!

It was a great day! Bob

#9 200 bugs resolved ?

by peter6

Wednesday April 21st, 2004 11:22 AM

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How come so few of these have been checked in ? I expected a long list of fixes today, but that did not happen (yet). Or are a large number of these actually duplicates ?

#10 resolved, not fixed

by mlefevre

Wednesday April 21st, 2004 11:29 AM

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As the article says, this was a bug triaging day; it wasn't a bug-fixing activity.

The 200 bugs resolved were mostly resolved as "works for me" or "invalid", some were duplicates. In addition, a number of real bugs have been flagged up as affecting those top 100 sites, and hopefully some of those will now get fixed before 1.7 as a result.

#12 Re: resolved, not fixed

by peter6

Wednesday April 21st, 2004 11:35 AM

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Thanks for the explanation. I visited irc for the first time last night so I'm not familiar with the whole process yet..

#11 200 bugs resolved ?

by peter6

Wednesday April 21st, 2004 11:32 AM

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How come so few of these have been checked in ? I expected a long list of fixes today, but that did not happen (yet). Or are a large number of these actually duplicates ?

#13 Re: 200 bugs resolved ?

by Hymagumba

Thursday April 22nd, 2004 6:02 AM

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as has been said above, most bugs were resolved as WORKSFORME or as duplicates.