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Complete Text 'Rapid Application Development with Mozilla' Available for Free Download

Monday April 12th, 2004

Wily Yuen writes: "Nigel McFarlane's Rapid Application Development with Mozilla is now available as a PDF download from Bruce Perens' Open Source series at InformIT. Please support the author and buy the book if you find it to be useful."

Displaying a keen sense of irony, InformIT have ensured that their download page does not work in Mozilla. The book is available as a zip file containing a collection of PDFs or as a zip file containing a collection of RTF documents.


#1 Fix the irony ...

by cdn

Monday April 12th, 2004 4:01 PM

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'Displaying a keen sense of irony, InformIT have ensured that their download page does not work in Mozilla.'

userContent.css to the rescue (with a little help from a small extension)

offending css is :

#contentPromotions #promotionFooter {margin-top:30px; padding:0; position:relative;}

fix (w/o URI id)

#contentPromotions #promotionFooter { position: auto ! important; /* or static */ }

fix (using URI id - since this makes it specific to informit.com pages)

#www-informit-com #contentPromotions #promotionFooter { position: auto ! important; /* or static */ }

URI id : <http://downloads.mozdev.org/cdn/uriid/uriid.xpi>

#2 II'm impressed

by jgraham

Monday April 12th, 2004 4:12 PM

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Wow, not testing that page in Mozilla shows a particular lack of forsight on the part of the publishers. Know thy audience and so on.

In case anyone's interested, it looks like Nigel and fantasai are heading up the DevMo effort to produce a 'portal' for Mozilla developer resources and hopefully to extend the breadth of documentation available. I know that I'm talking without acting, but it would be great if the people who develop Firefox extensions could pool their collective knowledge and make it avaliable in a more formal format than the question - response forum system. Maybe some kind of Wiki setup would work?

#3 Much appreciated

by Anthracks

Monday April 12th, 2004 10:01 PM

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Even if the site is inexplicably coded to be invisible to Mozilla, it's still a very nice gesture to distribute the book for free. Thanks to everyone involved!

#4 Unreserved recommendation

by Gerv

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 1:21 AM

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I've been reading this book over Easter, and I can say without hesitation that this is the book that the Mozilla Platform has needed - Mozilla's Camel Book. It's well-written, honest, covers the entire subject well and is packed with useful info. Full marks to Nigel - I hope it sells as well as it deserves.

Gerv

#5 Re: Unreserved recommendation

by zero0w

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 2:21 AM

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Indeed, I have browsed over the book in Easter too. Nigel's writing is easy to understand, and he's pretty clear of his goal and scope in his writings.

We need more docs like this one in order to push Mozilla as a platform and help the GNOME XUL integration vision as discussed few days ago.

#6 although the page has some quirky css...

by porter235

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 5:58 AM

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using firefox i can completely disable css and get a nice clean page and retrieve the info i want.

#7 Their site died?

by ilishin

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 6:52 AM

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I can not even ping it.. has anyone mirrored the docs?

#8 Bad CSS? It wasn't a few days ago...

by Waldo_2

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 7:20 AM

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<http://www.mozillazine.or…back.html?article=4584#83>

I downloaded it a few days ago in response to the above post. The page worked fine at that time.

#11 Re: Bad CSS? It wasn't a few days ago...

by zero0w

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 9:39 AM

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Yes, it was working few days ago.

It isn't clear what prompted the changes.

Another workaround is to save the page as HTML in your local harddrive, access the local HTML file, and there you go for the links to download various PDF and source of open content documentation.

#9 More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Bookshelf

by geraldb

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 8:25 AM

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If anyone is interested in more books about XUL and friends, see the Open XUL Alliance bookshelf online @ <http://xul.sourceforge.net/books.html>

#10 Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Bookshelf

by Waldo_2

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 9:17 AM

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Please note that in geraldb's context XUL really means any XML language used to produce user interfaces (NOT just XUL(TM) from Mozilla). He isn't referring specifically to the syntax/grammar of the XUL(TM) we all know and love that is defined by Mozilla/Mozilla Foundation/mozilla.org/etc. (Some of what he mentions is indeed specifically related to XUL(TM), but some also isn't. For example, Flex and XUL(TM) are hardly related except that each uses XML for its basic syntax, while the grammars are very different.)

#12 Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Bookshelf

by zero0w

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 9:42 AM

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Isn't the book name clear enough, sir?

People who has a brain can tell this book is for developing Mozilla and its XUL. Please take your name-calling war elsewhere.

#13 Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Bookshelf

by kerz <jason@mozillazine.org>

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 10:57 AM

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Don't spam my site or I'll be forced to turn off your account.

jason

#14 Re: Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Books

by geraldb

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 11:23 AM

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> Don't spam my site or I'll be forced to turn off your account.

I hope you don't mean my post. If you do, please turn off my account. If there's anyone who has promoted Nigel's Mozilla XUL book more than I do (besides Nigel of course) please let me know.

#15 Re: Re: Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance B

by zero0w

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 11:48 AM

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I thought this is what this news posting is about: promoting this book.

Also, Mozdev.org Doc section has already updated with a link to this book since yesterday. And I personally posted the news about it at Mozilla Developement and XUL Planet forum.

#17 Re: Re: Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance B

by jgraham

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 1:32 PM

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If there's anyone who has confused people about XUL more than you have please let me know

#16 Re: Re: More books about XUL at XUL Alliance Books

by Grauw

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 12:23 PM

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Way to go :).

~Grauw

#18 direct link

by pcabellor

Tuesday April 13th, 2004 1:38 PM

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#19 Of course I tried direct links

by ilishin

Wednesday April 14th, 2004 3:13 AM

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I can not reach their sites (<http://www.informit.com> and phptr.com) in any way - not with browser neither with wget or even ping. So I ask those of you who was lucky enough to download this piece of XUL wisdom to help me read it too. Please put to some site or send me via email -- ilishin [at] zeos [dot] net

#20 thanks a lot

by ilishin

Thursday April 15th, 2004 12:35 AM

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Thanks for that great book and thanks informit for releasing this

#21 InformIT is Fixing the CSS Problems

by nitsudima

Thursday April 15th, 2004 9:49 AM

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Thank you all for your comments about InformIT's CSS problems. The problem is ironic, but we are taking it very seriously. As soon as we learned of the problem, our developers went to work to correct it, and a new build will be released tonight (4/15/04) that will allow Mozilla users to view the Bruce Perens' pages on InformIT.com.

Our site is tested for compatibility under all major (and several minor) browsers, and Mozilla is included in that mix. However, we released some new code last weekend that wasn't tested thoroughly enough. For that we apologize, and we'll try not to let it happen again (those needing floggings have been flogged).

Some people commented on not being able to access the site at all, and for that I have no explanation. We have had no downtime events, and despite the CSS problems, our site has been running without interruption. There was one bad link listed in the original post above, so let me provide you all with a correct link (a redirect) and the direct link to the Bruce Perens' Open Source Series page:

<http://www.phptr.com/perens> (this link is a redirect to...)

<http://www.informit.com/promotion/1041>

Hopefully if you try either of those links on 4/16, you will have no problems with the pages in Mozilla. If you have any other comments, please feel free to contact us at <editors@informit.com>.

Thanks for your patience,

Dustin Sullivan InformIT.com