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Full Article Attached Mozilla Looking to Forge Alliances with GNOME and Other Open Source Projects to Combat Longhorn

Tuesday April 6th, 2004

jgraham writes: "Brendan Eich has written an interesting post to the netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey newsgroup outlining some of the plans being made to ensure that Mozilla technology remains useful and relevant in the future. Brendan sees Mozilla developing into an open cross-platform alternative to forthcoming Microsoft technologies such as XAML and is looking to collaborate with other open-source projects to make this happen." The GNOME project is mentioned explicitly. Brendan's message is part of a longer thread about the goals of mozilla.org.


#8 XAML is Just A Code Name It's Not A Trademark

by geraldb

Wednesday April 7th, 2004 1:01 AM

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> but to say XUL and XAML are the same, that I am quite sure is confusing.

Not at all. Just look at some XUL/XAML/XUI/etc. markup and you will see that it's all the same. If you want to brand your browser/player/runtime you need to use a proper name e.g. Mozilla. Luxor, Ibex, Laszlo, Flash, Java, etc. See the pattern?

> Nor will I see Microsoft will agree with your definition. Microsoft is not about to subscribe to any but its own controlled standard > anyway.

Please not that XAML is just a code name. It's not a Microsoft trademark. Microsoft will unveil a new name once Longhorn (Windows 2009) goes live (e.g. Windows (TM) Markup Language - WinML - or similar). Why not follow the Microsoft lead an use a proper name such as Mozilla (TM) Markup Language - MozML or MML or M2L or similar? Also note that XAML initally stood for eXtensible Avalon Markup Language and now stands for eXtensible Application Markup Language or XML Application Markup Language and is a generic term like XML UI Language (XUL).

For example, check out the MyXAML project online @ <http://www.myxaml.com> It's not a Microsoft XAML clone but MyXAML uses it's own markup. What do you say now?

Or how about XUI? There's the Xoetrope XUI project online @ <http://xui.sourceforge.net> and than there's the Purnama XUI project online @ <http://geekkit.bcit.ca/xui/web> Any comments?