Full Article Attached Mozilla Looking to Forge Alliances with GNOME and Other Open Source Projects to Combat Longhorn

Tuesday April 6th, 2004

jgraham writes: "Brendan Eich has written an interesting post to the netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey newsgroup outlining some of the plans being made to ensure that Mozilla technology remains useful and relevant in the future. Brendan sees Mozilla developing into an open cross-platform alternative to forthcoming Microsoft technologies such as XAML and is looking to collaborate with other open-source projects to make this happen." The GNOME project is mentioned explicitly. Brendan's message is part of a longer thread about the goals of

#78 First solve your home brewed problems.

by wyo

Thursday April 8th, 2004 12:16 PM

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Do you believe you can fight against Longhorn before solving the home brewed problems first? Don't you think that there has to be some reasons why Apple and KDE (Suse) choose kHTML instead of Geko? I'm not saying Geko is bad but there _are_ reasons.

Mozilla lost a rather lot of sympathy when a silly marketing guy named the new browser "firebird". Isn't Mozilla good enough to keep its name. Why is a new name needed?

"5) Create a technology platform on top of which applications". Phantastic maybe when this is finshed I finally know how to write my folder popup box extension for Thunderbird. So far I couldn't find any usful infos. BTW why did Mozilla remove this little nice item after version 1.0? Didn't they know that the folder pane can be hidden? How can one switch folders if the folder pane is hidden?

"Second, Linux is poised to rise just by being cheaper". True as long as Linux isn't usable by a normal user, a house wife, a carpenter, etc. but requires at least a master degree in computer science or immessurable time, costs are irrelevant.

Mozilla has to stay cross platform, after all this is the main reason to choose Mozilla.

"A crucial features of this new platform: the GUI toolkit must be able to blend in among native apps". When I see such a statement I always wonder why it isn't named wxWidgets (wxWindows)? Maybe the main problem within Mozilla is that it tries to do everything instead of using what's there. Do they Mozilla people really think they are able to build a better GUI toolkit besides the best browser, the fastest renderer, the most advanced technology platform, etc? How many are working on such a system and how many centuries are planned?

IMO Mozilla has its chance to "stay in business" if it concentrates on what it can and make corrections where it's needed. So Geko has to be tweeked that it is on a similar level as kHTML, that is IMO the most critical path. Do everything else what you planned but don't do it yourself again. At least don't do it where others already have succeeded.

O. Wyss