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Tuesday April 6th, 2004

jgraham writes: "Brendan Eich has written an interesting post to the netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey newsgroup outlining some of the plans being made to ensure that Mozilla technology remains useful and relevant in the future. Brendan sees Mozilla developing into an open cross-platform alternative to forthcoming Microsoft technologies such as XAML and is looking to collaborate with other open-source projects to make this happen." The GNOME project is mentioned explicitly. Brendan's message is part of a longer thread about the goals of mozilla.org.


#50 I wonder when coherence...

by PrimalDK <mike@primal.dk>

Wednesday April 7th, 2004 4:57 PM

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...will enter the minds of the OO Revolution.

Don't get me wrong: You are all intelligent people, and you probably care deeply about these issues.

But you will never, ever keep up with the COHERENT effort of the thousands of people working ONE product.

This is why Microsoft is such a strong force. The diversity is our strength and our weakness.

Strength if diversity is what we want.

And this we want if we wish for a niche-role. And NO, Apple is not an example to the contrary. They exist only because of their COHERENCE. They are a niche-player because of Microsoft. A superior product doesn't make a winning concept in-and-of itself. This we learn from the Be/BeOS story. Now THERE's a desktop OS that beats my 3000MHz P4 XPensive Winbox hands down on my 200MHz, 604e-based Mac-clone.

Weakness if we wish to compete in the market of the public.

I had the typical experience this afternoon: With a GUI it took me all of 10+ minutes to complete something that later took me less than a minute in a shell. The opposite sometimes holds true too, but in the eye of the public, the PERCEIVED value of a GUI is an order of magnitude higher than that of a shell, mainly because the public isn't BASH-ing away 8-10 hours a day for years on end. What you do not understand, you fear.

If there was ONE command - ls or dir, I don't care (well, ok, I do), ONE desktop, the best or not, then the public would feel SAFE/SECURE because of the COHERENCY of what they were trying to interface with, and that again is the permeating argument PRO Windows: "It's Windows, it's always been Windows, it's backwards compatible, it's a gradual change with Windows, it's not a shift of paradigms with Windows, it runs my programs, does Windows". This is not entirely true, but it's what the public perceives, and I believe this perception of COHERENCE => SAFETY/SECURITY to be at the root of Window's success, notwithstanding monopoly games and the like. People are lazy buggers, and they are scared to the bones.

So, if we want to succeed, we should CHOOSE for them. Who else should know? We are the experts, they aren't.

And I agree with the author: We should choose NOW.