Full Article Attached Mozilla Looking to Forge Alliances with GNOME and Other Open Source Projects to Combat Longhorn

Tuesday April 6th, 2004

jgraham writes: "Brendan Eich has written an interesting post to the netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey newsgroup outlining some of the plans being made to ensure that Mozilla technology remains useful and relevant in the future. Brendan sees Mozilla developing into an open cross-platform alternative to forthcoming Microsoft technologies such as XAML and is looking to collaborate with other open-source projects to make this happen." The GNOME project is mentioned explicitly. Brendan's message is part of a longer thread about the goals of

#5 Re: Let's Work Together

by Asacarny

Tuesday April 6th, 2004 11:21 PM

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First of all Gerald, how about you use an acronym besides XUL for your website. It's confusing to everybody and more of a headache than it's worth. Then Mozilla can join your "Alliance". I think you would find yourself with a lot of supporters from the Mozilla camp if you just caved and agreed to help _us_ out too.

Why you haven't just agreed to work with us is a mystery to me. I recall reading the photoshop support newsgroup. A fellow (Timo Autiokari) has been posting there for years, and his recommendations towards users are perpetually based on fundamental misunderstandings of graphics editing. They tell him to stop, but he refuses to listen. (You can see his website at <>, but don't believe a word of it. Search google groups for the truth.)

Extreme stubbornness is an interesting thing to analyze. I wonder if Gerald hopes to spearhead some sort of XUL revolution. First, he dilutes the name. Then, as XML-based graphical interfaces take off, he gets more traffic. Since he's the primary dilutor, he gets the credit for the pheonomenon.

As a last point, it should be clear that XUL is already open, and furthermore, that joining the "Open XUL Alliance" does not change that. It's much more significant that Mozilla is working with a standards body to get a spec out for XUL. See Hixie's natural log (blog).