Full Article Attached Mozilla Looking to Forge Alliances with GNOME and Other Open Source Projects to Combat Longhorn

Tuesday April 6th, 2004

jgraham writes: "Brendan Eich has written an interesting post to the netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey newsgroup outlining some of the plans being made to ensure that Mozilla technology remains useful and relevant in the future. Brendan sees Mozilla developing into an open cross-platform alternative to forthcoming Microsoft technologies such as XAML and is looking to collaborate with other open-source projects to make this happen." The GNOME project is mentioned explicitly. Brendan's message is part of a longer thread about the goals of

#49 Re: Nooo! (disconnected rants)

by MXN

Wednesday April 7th, 2004 2:19 PM

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"What's seen in the sweeping 'mozilla the platform' vision seems to me to be a mirage. Wasn't the roadmap shift last year all about realizing that people are interested in a slim browser and rendering library, not an overambitious try at a fully buzzword-compliant comprehensive development platform?"

While it is true that the "slim browser and rendering library" is a major focus of the Mozilla project now, I think the Mozilla project is still committed to developing a platform, because, as Brendan says in the newsgroup posting:

"If we do only 'the browser thing' ... we are likely to be irrelevant in approximately five years. Not unused, but trailing-edge..."

People obviously are interested in having a slim browser. That's why Firefox has been such a big deal. But there are also a lot of other people who are interested in more. Things like ActiveState Komodo started because people thought Mozilla was a good platform to build on.

I know what you mean about "frameworks of frameworks of frameworks". I think the same thing when I look at some of IBM's AlphaWorks technologies - Sash, for example. A little extraneous. But Mozilla has some good ideas that can't just be an aim at being "fully buzzword-compliant." Some of the Mozilla community's projects aren't trying to counter Microsoft's ideas - they're going further.

From Brendan's post, it looks like the GRE idea will still be carried out for Windows, etc. Since GRE will probably shrink the amount of space and the amount of files that multiple Mozilla programs will take up, it'll be a step in the "simplicity and power" direction.

...Some more disconnected thoughts for everyone to digest. :)

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