MozNGW: Mozilla-Based Client for Novell GroupWise

Monday April 5th, 2004

Sohail Mirza writes: " has an article pointing people to MozNGW, a Mozilla-based GroupWise client by RedbackSystems." GroupWise is Novell's corporate communication and collaboration tool. The native Windows client is, in the words of RedbackSystems, "the fat kid that fell out of the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down." MozNGW, which was originally going to be based on Opera, is intended to rectify this. As well as MozNGW, RedbackSystems also has several other products, most of which will eventually be rolled into their XULU cross-platform application framework.

#9 Re: XULU (TM) - Please find yourself a better name

by aspr1n

Wednesday April 7th, 2004 9:52 AM

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I had intended to ignore the above blog entry, but as you have posted here I will respond.

1. Had the original poster bothered to read the project page rather than just rant, he/she would have noted the project's name is XULU not XULUX. 2. Your own link points to the pronunciation, XULUX is "Zool Looks", ours is pronounced "Zulu" - after the African warrior tribe. 3. I personally "googled" extensively on "XULU", and there is no software project - open source or otherwise with that name. Why would I google for a name called "XULUX" when I had no intention of calling the project that? 4. The 'TM' does indeed mean we claim ownership on a project implementing a cross platform XML interface based on Mozilla's XUL technology called "XULU" and pronounced as above. If the Mozilla XUL spec become formalised by the W3C then you may assume the claim continues. 5. In the same way Linus Torvalds claims TM on Linux on behalf of the Linux community, Redback make a similar assertion on behalf of the XULU Project. 6. The 'TM' on the project logo means it is a unique piece of intellectual effort, and therefore has the right to be protected. BTW and are different entities. 7. I have no idea what you mean when you say "XULU clearly beats MozNGW but it won't win any awards anytime soon". MozNGW is a snap-in to XULU. 8. I wish your project the best of luck, may the best technology win.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly. This a project for and on behalf of the Mozilla Community, neither we nor this project, are or indeed will be associated with the so called "Open XUL Alliance". As such, the only people who may request a name change is this community itself, and therefore I am not inclined to acquiesce to your request.