Sunbird Project Section Added to Mozilla Calendar Website
Saturday March 27th, 2004
Simon Paquet writes: "I just wanted to let you know that a Sunbird section has been added to the Mozilla Calendar website.
"These pages cover the Sunbird project and its goals, where one can download Sunbird and what its known issues are and how to build it.
"Please bear one thing in mind when referring to Sunbird: 'Sunbird' is just a project name at the moment and the name may change in the future. At the moment we do not have the resources to trademark the name and make it official, so that is mainly a legal thing. So whenever you talk or write about Sunbird please refer to it just as 'Sunbird' or the 'Sunbird Project'."
Sorry, just trying it out to see if it sounded good
#2 Sunbird and Thunderbird should merge
Saturday March 27th, 2004 9:04 PM
I believe that mozilla.org can create a compelling alternative to MS Outlook. It's only natural that a mail client and calender should be together.
#3 Re: Sunbird and Thunderbird should merge
Saturday March 27th, 2004 9:55 PM
... unless, of course, you're one of the many users who do not need to run a calendar program each time you check your email.
#4 Re: Re: Sunbird and Thunderbird should merge
Saturday March 27th, 2004 11:29 PM
...and I am one of them. Haven't really ever used a calendar app before, but I might just give this Sunbird a try.
PS. Rename it Sunfox. It sounds so much better ;)
#9 Re: Re: Sunbird and Thunderbird should merge
Sunday March 28th, 2004 5:04 AM
I actually like the integration of this in Outlook. You get mail about something to do at work, then you create a Task for it in its task manager, where you can set contact person, deadline, etc, and it automatically appears in the calendar you can use as a graphical overview of what to do. You can of course also set tasks directly in the calendar. I think there's still a lot to do here for the Mozilla team. :)
#13 Re: Sunbird and Thunderbird should merge
Monday March 29th, 2004 6:21 AM
The goal of creating Firefox, Thunderbird and Sunbird was to have separate components, wasn't it? I don't see why an email client should have a calendar built in. I suspect very few people keep their (paper) calendars by the front door (or wherever they receive their letters). If you want a calendar built into your email client, use Thunderbird's calendar; personally, I'd rather keep them separate. Eventually, all of the standalone Mozilla apps will be more integrated (as is beginning to happen with Firefox's mail UI) - hopefully there'll then be less of a distinction between extensions and full-blown applications.
The main goal of Sunbird "is to produce a cross platform standalone calendar". I'm wondering how many people use a calender by itself to make appointments.
From an organizational standpoint, when I send a memo to someone for a meeting, that is when I want to add it to my calender. I am completely fine with having the project be stand-alone, but PLEASE make it so that it can seamlessly be integrated (into Thunderbird) to send e-mails (for making appointments) and read e-mails (for verifying appointments in the calender).
Why have a dependency on Thunderbird to send e-mails? For this MAPI on windows is good enough.
Reading emails though is a problem. Perhaps some programmers with too much time can add support for a variety of email clients.
But MAPI is, as you say, Windows-only, and Thunderbird's support for MAPI is limited currently. If Sunbird went with MAPI, it wouldn't work with Thunderbird, and wouldn't work on other platforms. MAPI would be nice (in order to interface with other Windows email systems), but I can see why they wouldn't choose is as the primary way to go.
That takes care of the calendar -> mail integration. But what about the mail -> calendar integration? If I receive an iCalendar meeting request in my mail client, I'd like to have the option to accept it and stick it in my calendar. Will MAPI handle this? What about platforms other than Windows?
Still my favourite :-)
According to the calendar roadmap, the thunderbird integration is complete (Receiving an email invitation should bring the calendar up to prompt to import file, Finish integration with Thunderbird as an extension) and the Accept Outlook invitations feature will follow soon.
#11 Keep it standalone
Sunday March 28th, 2004 8:48 AM
I've just downloaded it and it looks good. But does anyone else haev a problem with calendars that I have?
The problem is that I maintain a computer at my University, a laptop that travels everywhere and a computer at home. I have tried a PDA but have not been impressed with the reliability of the one I had (it died two days after the expiry of the warranty, having previously zapped my entire diary when it reset itself without my knowledge) and can't afford to experiment - academic salaries do not permit much in the way of experimentation of this sort. If Sunbird had a method of selecting all newly entered events and exporting them (rather than selecting individually) then the updating as per PDAs would be much easier - and as far as I can see most of this is already written. This would make the add-on cost of PDAs (for me) not relevant
Or is this not part of the way that others see it?
#14 Sunlizard? Sunfish? Sunsquid? Sunbear? Sunsnake?
by vegtam <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Tuesday June 22nd, 2004 5:09 PM
Someting organized or seasonal....
I would love it if it was possible to have the calendar app standalone, and still allow crossover funtionality to both firefox and thinderbird....
firefox and thinderbird are stansalone, and still they can call each other up for defferent purposes, why shouldn't that be possible for Sunfish?