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Opera Now Most Compliant Browser, According to WebReview

Friday March 26th, 1999

CNet reports that WebReview's latest assessment of CSS1 compliance in release browsers puts Opera on top with 78%, followed by IE4 at 70.2% and Nav4 at 38.8%. Neither the M3 release of Mozilla or IE5 were assessed in the recent tally.

Contrary to the opinion of the study's author, Eric Meyer, who stated that Opera was "really very impressive, especially given its relative youth", a buggy 78% implementation hardly seems worth touting. As I've stated before on these pages, a browser that has is 78% compliant and buggy is as useful as a 10% compliant (but bug-free) browser. In fact, the 10% compliant browser is the better option, because no workaround code is required for implementation. However, the only browser that should garner any praise is the one that is 100% compliant, and bug-free in its implementation.

In addition, an interesting statement from the WSP that appeared in the CNet article is worth mentioning.

"The uneven deployment of CSS1 in major Web browsers over the last two years has caused Web authors great frustration and expense, and has won CSS an undeservedly obscure and difficult reputation"

From my experience watching the progress of Mozilla's CSS1 implementation, it seems that CSS's reputation for being difficult is deserved. Developers have had to search the CSS2 definition to clear up vagaries in the CSS1 definition. There is no reference CSS implementation *anywhere*, so developers are essentially guinea pigs and have to not only implement CSS1, but spend time and money working through all the inconsistencies that were not addressed by a reference implementation. It doesn't seem that the uneven deployment of CSS implementations has caused CSS1's reputation. If anything, CSS1's vagueness has had the direct result of limiting its adoption.


#23 Re:Opera Now Most Compliant Browser, According to

by mozineAdmin

Monday March 29th, 1999 9:02 AM

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Aleks,

Ok, this is my last time through this.

You stated, "If you're bitter about Opera being buggy, you should be equally bitter about Netscape being buggy, and you're not." Where did you get that impression? That's just simply not true, and you have *nothing* to back that up. In fact, you'll find much in my previous responses to you that go contrary to that opinion.

Opera's only mentioned in my news item because someone dared to put an article out stating that one browser was "leading" the pack. That's just nonsense. Why should I give praise to the leader in a group of racers that petered out before ever reaching the finish line?

"Well, the race is over, and Opera almost made it, but collapsed 3/4 of the way to the finish line, followed closely by IE, with Communcator coughing up blood at the halfway mark. What an effort from all our participants! Maybe next time someone will make it the whole way around the track! Well, let's go home... no medals to give out today."

It could've been Opera, it could've been IE, it could've been Mozilla. Opera just happened to be the one about which the misinformation was being spread.

Next, you state, "And regardless, Mozilla better be 100% compliant and not have a single bug, or else it won't make it up to your tough standards."

If Communicator 5.0's CSS1 compliance isn't 100%, you're damn straight I'll be pissed. They've been stating *for months* that they would be 100% compliant in CSS1, DOM level 1, and XML 1.0. If they back down after that, screw 'em. I have better things to do with my time than put my support behind a company that makes promises they refuse to keep.

So, does that sound like I'm being easy on Netscape? I have high expectations, because they let me have them.