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Saturday February 14th, 2004

Several tech news sites reported on Monday's release and renaming of Mozilla Firefox 0.8, with a few also noting version 0.5 of Mozilla Thunderbird. CNET News.com ran an article that focussed almost exclusively on the name change, while I.T. Vibe did much the same, mentioning the 0.8 release only in passing. While Geek.com did report on the name change, they decided that what it's called isn't really that important.

PCWorld.com was one of several sites to run the IDG News Service's article on Firefox 0.8, with Thunderbird 0.5 also mentioned. Meanwhile, LinuxInsider included the opinions of a couple skeptical analysts, while BetaNews had a report that noted some of the new marketing plans. Many of the comments at Slashdot discussed the name change, though the initial story reported on both Firefox and Thunderbird. The UK's PC Pro had the best attempt at covering both of Monday's releases equally, with one article for Firefox and another for Thunderbird.

The we-just-paraphrased-the-release-notes-and/or-press-release crowd includes Techweb, Techtree, p2pnet.net, LinuxDevices.com and The Mac Observer.

ZDNet Australia has a review of Firefox 0.8, which describes it as "a surprisingly capable and nimble little browser, albeit one with a somewhat strange naming pattern." The Mac Orchard takes a look at the software from a Mac user's perspective. While not strictly a review, a SitePoint weblog post examines what Firefox has in store for Web developers.

Finally, there's also the Mozilla Foundation's own press release. Thanks to everyone who sent us links to articles and reviews.


#1 Typo

by redemption

Saturday February 14th, 2004 11:07 PM

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Just thought you'd want to know that you linked to the wrong site for Geek.com (a typo).

#2 Re: Typo

by AlexBishop <alex@mozillazine.org>

Sunday February 15th, 2004 12:13 AM

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"Just thought you'd want to know that you linked to the wrong site for Geek.com (a typo)."

Thanks, fixed.

Alex

#3 Add one more

by NXprime

Sunday February 15th, 2004 1:01 AM

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Yeah and add one more that actually talks about the usefullness of each feature on a daily basis and what needs improving.

<http://slashdot.org/comme…sid=96079&cid=8227945>

I only mention this again since this was a 0.8 article roundup and I felt that I had something to contribute :)

#4 DiDio's talking rubbish again...

by rkl

Sunday February 15th, 2004 5:13 AM

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After making herself look foolish by siding with SCO in the SCO vs. IBM "$5 billion" case, you'd have though Laura DiDio would have thought long and hard before spouting off again against the Open Source community. But no, here's some choice quotes from our favourite "senior analyst" in the Linux Insider article:

"Mozilla is still far from making inroads into the enterprise market."

And where's her evidence for this? Mozilla 1.6 now has NTLM authentication, so it can even now enroach into 100% Microsoft shops. Mozilla is considered the de facto Linux browser (is there a Linux distro that *doesn't* ship with it ?) and every review I've ever seen of it says it has more features and is more secure than IE, so why shouldn't the "enterprise market" adopt it?

"Open source is not going to take over the enterprise."

That's strictly her opinion - Open Office, Mozilla, Evolution, KDE/Gnome, numerous Linux distros, Oracle (remember that Linux is now the standard platform in which all Oracle development is done), major wins for Linux in local governments across the world (Munich, China etc.) - plenty of evidence there that open source is being taken very seriously by enterprise users, but if DiDio says it isn't going to happen, then obviously she's right and many other people are wrong.

"It may do well in niche markets, but with the free downloads you have to be a hunter-gatherer."

This is what corporations have an IT tech department for, you nitwit ! The techs download the browser from...ooh, let me "hunter gather"...<http://www.mozilla.org>, try it out on one machine and if it works, construct a roll out test pilot on selected desktops. This is actually *easier* than having to order a cardboard box version of software (which has to pass through requisitions depts. etc.).

"DiDio said the new Mozilla browser extensions and cross-platform applets are an acknowledgement that the dominant Internet Explorer and Netscape browsers are not going away"

What have browser extensions and, er, "cross-platform applets" (huh ? are these Java applets ?) got to do with the market share of IE and Netscap?. And since when is the Netscape browser "dominant' any more - Mozilla overtook it ages ago (I can't even see Netscape mentioned on <http://www.onestat.com/ht…l/aboutus_pressbox26.html> for instance).

" 'If I use this, what warranties are you giving me? What indemnification is there? What is the product warranty? What if something goes wrong?'" DiDio said. "You're really on your own."

Please, Ms. DiDio, explain exactly what warranties, indemnification and liability Microsoft offer companies in their EULA for Internet Explorer? Oh, that's right - *none whatsoever*. So please stop using facetious arguments like this in the future (OK, I know you won't, because you are utterly clueless when it comes to Open Source).

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